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[Dougc1369]

I've been opening the door to get him used to it and me and he climbed right out! I didn't move fast enough to close the door without hurting him and the next thing I know he's on top of the door.

Of course the real fun came in getting him back in the cage since he still doesn't fully trust me. I used my heavy leather gloves, which he hates, had to leave the glove in the cage with him and get it out later. Any tips on getting a non-trusting parrot back in a cage safely will be appreciated.

Doug

 

[Megapixel]

You could try to get him to step onto a stick/perch.

 

[henpecked]

Only feed him in the cage. usually a favorite treat will trick him into going back in. We use peanuts to get breeder zons into another cage.

 

[BirdyMomma]

Oh wow! So glad you got him out! Please don't use the gloves anymore. You can try using a dowel or a perch, or if you teach him to target, you can target him back in. He looks awesome!!

 

[Dougc1369]

Thanks everyone. I took the gloves out of the room and don't plan on using them again. I don't want to stress him out like that again. (I tried just holding a glove up close to him outside the cage and he went nuts! I'm wondering if maybe it reminds him of some of the tormenting he has previously gone thru.)

I've also noticed he will jump if I move too fast or touch him somewhere that he doesn't expect. Learning something new about him everyday!

Doug

 

[BirdyMomma]

Does he like music? My Amazon, Bacci loved music. He loved opera, and the Rolling Stones, and Bob Dylan. He used to love to ride in the car, and screech along to whatever was on the radio!! I have a video of him, getting so into a song, that he sang himself right off his perch!!

 

[SandyBee]

Oh a special treat of food will get an amzon back in his cage. Find something that he really loves and give it to him only when you want him to go back in. Make sure he is not full on other food or this can back fire. It is also helpful to do this sometimes without closing the door to the cage so he doesn't associate it with being locked up all the time.

 

[Megapixel]

There is nothing wrong with using gloves.
Gloves are not inherently evil, they are absolutely no different than anything else introduced into a bird's environment.

 

[JerseyWendy]

There is nothing wrong with using gloves.
Gloves are not inherently evil, they are absolutely no different than anything else introduced into a bird's environment.

Unless a bird is used to being handled around gloves there is EVERYTHING wrong with it, as I have yet to meet a bird who takes to them kindly.

Of course gloves aren't evil, but most birds certainly act terrified around them.

 

[Megapixel]

There is nothing wrong with using gloves.
Gloves are not inherently evil, they are absolutely no different than anything else introduced into a bird's environment.

Unless a bird is used to being handled around gloves there is EVERYTHING wrong with it, as I have yet to meet a bird who takes to them kindly.

Of course gloves aren't evil, but most birds certainly act terrified around them.

When I first got my wild-caught bcc in '92 I used a gloved hand all the time. He stepped up onto it with no problem. Parrots are smart, they can easily figure out that something is completely harmless.
And that would be why I clearly stated "no different than anything else introduced into a bird's environment." of course they need to be introduced to gloves, just like everything else.

 

[getwozzy]

Using gloves or not depends on the individual bird and situation; any time Jackie saw gloves he freaked out. Some birds aren't scared of gloves, some are...

Whatever method you choose to use for handling birds is up to that person and the bird being handled- there is no right or wrong way.

 

[Megapixel]

Using gloves or not depends on the individual bird and situation; any time Jackie saw gloves he freaked out. Some birds aren't scared of gloves, some are...

Whatever method you choose to use for handling birds is up to that person and the bird being handled- there is no right or wrong way.

Exactly. Thank you.
That's all I was saying and yet I get punished for it.

 

[JerseyWendy]

Exactly. Thank you.
That's all I was saying and yet I get punished for it.

Ahem...NO. You did NOT get "punished" for what was left unedited.

I'd be more than happy to show you your UNEDITED post via PM, as this is NOT open for public discussion.

 

[Dougc1369]

From what I was told, Zack was mistreated at an earlier time of his life. I am thinking that if that is true then whoever did that might have had to use similar gloves to handle him safely.
That could leave Zack with a phobia for gloves...make them 'evil' from his point of view. At this point I would rather get him to trust me without using gloves rather than try to get him to overcome his fear of them. I think that would be better for us both in the long run.

I do however appreciate both the info and the lively debate!

Doug

 

[getwozzy]

From what I was told, Zack was mistreated at an earlier time of his life. I am thinking that if that is true then whoever did that might have had to use similar gloves to handle him safely.
That could leave Zack with a phobia for gloves...make them 'evil' from his point of view. At this point I would rather get him to trust me without using gloves rather than try to get him to overcome his fear of them. I think that would be better for us both in the long run.

I do however appreciate both the info and the lively debate!

Doug

That's what I had to do with Jackie; rather than try to get him to overcome his fear of gloves, it was easier to work with him using other methods. I used his T-stand and table-top stand a lot...I would just simply get him to step onto it, or if he was already on it just carry him over and put him in his cage (or wherever I wanted him to go).

There are ways to handle your bird, even if you're not able to physically touch them....you just need to find what works best

 

[BirdyMomma]

If you like handling your bird with a glove, and he is ok with it, that's great. It seemed however, from what you had written, that it caused the little guy a great deal of stress. There are other, less detrimental methods that you can try.