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[Dylan6565656565]

I come from a long time bird breeding family (pre 70s) and me and my father are soon going to start breeding macaws together, If there are no bonded scarlets available at the time, what are the logistics of 2 birds bonding and mating if I get 2 non related scarlets and raised them in separate cages but around each other daily? Is there a good chance they will/won’t bond?


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[SailBoat]

Welcome to Parrot Forum!

There has been some very extensive change in the 'breeder' World as the appearance of the 'flash for cash' breeder has near taken over the market. Their approach is too 'Parrot Mill' they're birds to maximize their chicks per year. In addition, they are greatly shortening the weaning period, commonly sending unweaned chicks home with individuals that have never weaned a Parrot. The end results is starving chicks, but maximize profits...

That is the market you are likely faced with. In the 70's it was common for a Macaw to be fully weaned and fully fledged prior to offering the chick.

As your father likely knows, there is no assurance that any one Parrot will like, let alone bond with any other Parrot. The larger Parrots are even more picky... Also, if you are just starting out, it is far more commonly to be looking for a Proven Bonded Pair as your starting point, thus the much higher likelihood of early success. A non-bonded pair could take years before they hatch chicks...

 

[Dylan6565656565]

Welcome to Parrot Forum!

There has been some very extensive change in the 'breeder' World as the appearance of the 'flash for cash' breeder has near taken over the market. Their approach is too 'Parrot Mill' they're birds to maximize their chicks per year. In addition, they are greatly shortening the weaning period, commonly sending unweaned chicks home with individuals that have never weaned a Parrot. The end results is starving chicks, but maximize profits...

That is the market you are likely faced with. In the 70's it was common for a Macaw to be fully weaned and fully fledged prior to offering the chick.

As your father likely knows, there is no assurance that any one Parrot will like, let alone bond with any other Parrot. The larger Parrots are even more picky... Also, if you are just starting out, it is far more commonly to be looking for a Proven Bonded Pair as your starting point, thus the much higher likelihood of early success. A none bonded pair could take years before they hatch chicks...

We’re doing it more so for a family experience we both heavily love birds and it would never be just about the money, and we wouldn’t force the birds out of their comfort zone trying to get them to breed more than they should


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[SailBoat]

Great and loving approach to Breeding (large 'B'), but with what little I know about Macaws (I'm an Amazon Snob) if you get young Mac's and raise them in such a way as they are highly likely to bond and than mate, it can be seven years before they start providing eggs and possible another three to five years before then get it right and start providing eggs that will hatch.

I understand the want for a family experience, but that is a lot of time prior to you learning the next steps after you have hatched eggs. Based on that, I would strongly recommend that you start a Nationwide search for a proven bonded pair.

FYI: Your Mac of choice, I believe, is a CITES class #1 or #2 and you will need to provide a Hatch Certificate with the chick whether for your family or the open market place. Easy to create when you are Hatching, an issue if you wait until someone is banding on your door need one...

We have several excellent Breeders on Parrot Forum, please see the Breeder Forum for more information.

Enjoy.

Just cause it's the way I'm wired; why all the numbers???? repeating 65's

 

[Dylan6565656565]

Great and loving approach to Breeding (large 'B'), but with what little I know about Macaws (I'm an Amazon Snob) if you get young Mac's and raise them in such a way as they are highly likely to bond and than mate, it can be seven years before they start providing eggs and possible another three to five years before then get it right and start providing eggs that will hatch.

I understand the want for a family experience, but that is a lot of time prior to you learning the next steps after you have hatched eggs. Based on that, I would strongly recommend that you start a Nationwide search for a proven bonded pair.

FYI: Your Mac of choice, I believe, is a CITES class #1 or #2 and you will need to provide a Hatch Certificate with the chick whether for your family or the open market place. Easy to create when you are Hatching, an issue if you wait until someone is banding on your door need one...

We have several excellent Breeders on Parrot Forum, please see the Breeder Forum for more information.

Enjoy.

Just cause it's the way I'm wired; why all the numbers???? repeating 65's

I’ve always liked the number 65 and for gmail one 65 two 65s and so on until five 65s were taken so I just made it match my email


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[AmyMyBlueFront]

Hello and Welcome to the forum! Like Steven..(Sail Boat)..I am also an Amazon snob and know nothing about Mac's. Reading and research and lots of it,is the key to me.



Jim

 

[Flboy]

Welcome! I hope you don’t plan on a flock of 65!