Indoor Flight Training. Advice, please.

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Hello, all!

As a few of you already know, my 5 month old eclectus, Bixby, finally finished weaning and came home to us near the end of November. Over the past month, I've been working with him on his flight skills. I work with him in a bedroom for this training, since his first few attempts fell FAR short of graceful (he routinely used the walls as a flight brake!) and the ceilings throughout the rest of my home are significantly higher. (Around 16 or so feet at the highest point.)

Over the past few weeks, however, his skills have greatly improved! Using 2 training perches, I've trained him to fly the length of the room across one level, then from a low point to a higher point, and now even from a high point to a lower one! (Not exactly outdoor free flight or anything, I know, but very exciting for me nonetheless! Baby steps.) Over the last week, he has even gotten pretty good at recall training!

Which brings me to a bit of a dilemma. Flight training-wise, there's not much more that I can teach him within the confines of the bedroom. Turning corners, flying up and down steps, etc... all needs to be taught out in the rest of my home. Which scares me. A lot.

So, do any of you have any ideas on how to make it safer for Bixby in an area where he can go so much higher and build up so much more speed? I'm aware of some of the basics like covering windows and mirrors, closing bathroom doors, not cooking while he's out, and, of course, not opening the doors to outside. What really scares me is the possibility of him slamming into a wall at speed or something. Or maybe a fall from a greater height than he's used to. Am I worrying over nothing? Or should I practice with him in the room for a few more weeks? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
Oh, and one other unrelated question. Are papaya seeds good for eclectus parrots?
 
Trust me he'll be navigating corners with ease and turning on a dime in no time at all. Flight is what they do and they figure out how to maneuver on their own. It sounds like you got all the bases covered, now it's just up to him. I know it can be heart-stopping watching them figure it out, but they do figure it out. Congratulations on keeping him flighted :D it would be a good time to start practicing flight recall with him so he always comes back to you.
 
Hi and congratulations on bringing your little fellow home.
It seems to me that your little guy has now graduated from indoor flyt school to outdoor harness training. ( This isn't for everyone's cup of tea)
I was lucky my bird took to the harness very well. He let me put it on him first go, which doesn't always happen.
The only harness that is safe for your bird and escape proof is the Aviator harness and leash. Beware of knock offs!!.. The ordinal has a instructional DVD included and its the one I use.
You can order it online or they r available at any good pet store.
But its a personal choice.
Good luck with your little guy.:green2:
 
Definitely try the harness! :)

Once he has flight recall and flying to a perch inside, you can then take him outside and start training!

With the long flight line you can have him flying long distances to and from the perch ! :)


and its a great idea that you are getting him to fly down... If a bird ever gets stuck in a tree, they usually have alot of problems flying down to us... So practicing that will help if he ever gets lost! :)
 
Trust me he'll be navigating corners with ease and turning on a dime in no time at all. Flight is what they do and they figure out how to maneuver on their own. It sounds like you got all the bases covered, now it's just up to him. I know it can be heart-stopping watching them figure it out, but they do figure it out. Congratulations on keeping him flighted :D it would be a good time to start practicing flight recall with him so he always comes back to you.

Thanks, Kalidasa. I've been practicing flight recall with him already. He's pretty consistent with it, though I don't know how well that would hold up once I train with him beyond the smaller boundaries of the bedroom. But I'll gear up to try soon.
 
Hi and congratulations on bringing your little fellow home.
It seems to me that your little guy has now graduated from indoor flyt school to outdoor harness training. ( This isn't for everyone's cup of tea)
I was lucky my bird took to the harness very well. He let me put it on him first go, which doesn't always happen.
The only harness that is safe for your bird and escape proof is the Aviator harness and leash. Beware of knock offs!!.. The ordinal has a instructional DVD included and its the one I use.
You can order it online or they r available at any good pet store.
But its a personal choice.
Good luck with your little guy.:green2:

Thanks, Caesar. As for the Aviator harness and leash, I already have it. Unfortunately, I had to introduce him to it in pretty much the EXACT way they tell you not to in the video. Smh.

I made the choice from the very beginning to keep Bixby fully-flighted, and store policy was very strict regarding flighted birds. (I was visiting him in the store for months while waiting for him to be weaned.) They had to either be clipped, or harnessed. So I basically had to force the harness on him every time I wanted to take him out and spend some bonding time. As you might imagine, he's less than pleased by the sight of it at this point. So I decided to give him a little break from it and try again later. (Hopefully in time for Spring) Any tips for the reintroduction?
 
Definitely try the harness! :)

Once he has flight recall and flying to a perch inside, you can then take him outside and start training!

With the long flight line you can have him flying long distances to and from the perch ! :)


and its a great idea that you are getting him to fly down... If a bird ever gets stuck in a tree, they usually have alot of problems flying down to us... So practicing that will help if he ever gets lost! :)

Thanks, Tab_xo. Yeah, I read about that whole flying down thing somewhere. Before that it would NEVER have occurred to me that a bird might need my help learning anything about flight. And I'm definitely looking forward to picking up one of those long flight lines for Bixby's harness and working with him on it. Once I get him to warm up to the harness, that is.
 
Papaya (paw paw) seeds are fine for them =D I have read somewhere that they will often prefer them too =D
 
Thanks, Freespin. Couldn't find info anywhere on papaya seeds.
 
Yeah you could hang it from his cage ( like in the video) and tie some treats to the end of it so he has to pull it up to get to the treats. Make it part of HIS environment. I always hang Caesars harness on his cage. So when we go out he is wearing HIS harness....
But my mate has a female and did all the right things introducing the harness etc. But unfortunately he got very badly bitten. So now he has given up on the harness which is a shame.
Good luck and remember Rome wasn't built in a day.:green2:
 
Just wanted to share a related story with you all. Every once in a while these parrots do something to remind you of just how smart they are.

Yesterday I was flight training Bixby. (Haven't mustered up the courage yet to train him outside of the bedroom, but I'll get there!) He's been doing well, so I decided to push him a bit. So I set his training perch at around 6 feet high, sat down maybe a foot or two from the base to make a steep angle, and then called him down to my arm. After sizing up the situation for a few moments, he flew gracefully down to my arm. Success!

Emboldened by Bixby's accomplishment, I decided to up the ante once more. So I asked my wife to use the targeting stick to indicate the perch from which he had just flown down. (Which was humorous to watch since my tiny wife is barely five feet tall!) I knew this would be a tough physical challenge for him. Given the angle, he would have to generate a significant amount of thrust in a relatively short span of time to pull it off.

Well, Bixby once again sized up the situation, turned around so that he was now facing me, and promptly flew to the OTHER training perch that I'd put a few feet behind me... supposedly out of the way. Smh.

But, before I could get to my feet and try again at an easier angle, Bixby took off once more and landed on the targeted training perch...from a far more forgiving angle, and flourished his tail feathers as he always does when he's particularly proud of himself!

We had to laugh out loud. He might not have been quite PHYSICALLY ready for that test, but he certainly proved that he could think outside of the box! Lol! He definitely earned his treat!
 
Hello, all!

As a few of you already know, my 5 month old eclectus, Bixby, finally finished weaning and came home to us near the end of November. Over the past month, I've been working with him on his flight skills. I work with him in a bedroom for this training, since his first few attempts fell FAR short of graceful (he routinely used the walls as a flight brake!) and the ceilings throughout the rest of my home are significantly higher. (Around 16 or so feet at the highest point.)

Over the past few weeks, however, his skills have greatly improved! Using 2 training perches, I've trained him to fly the length of the room across one level, then from a low point to a higher point, and now even from a high point to a lower one! (Not exactly outdoor free flight or anything, I know, but very exciting for me nonetheless! Baby steps.) Over the last week, he has even gotten pretty good at recall training!

Which brings me to a bit of a dilemma. Flight training-wise, there's not much more that I can teach him within the confines of the bedroom. Turning corners, flying up and down steps, etc... all needs to be taught out in the rest of my home. Which scares me. A lot.

So, do any of you have any ideas on how to make it safer for Bixby in an area where he can go so much higher and build up so much more speed? I'm aware of some of the basics like covering windows and mirrors, closing bathroom doors, not cooking while he's out, and, of course, not opening the doors to outside. What really scares me is the possibility of him slamming into a wall at speed or something. Or maybe a fall from a greater height than he's used to. Am I worrying over nothing? Or should I practice with him in the room for a few more weeks? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Hello Anansi

I dont want to encourage into free outdoors flight, but I can assure you is very possible with Eckies too!

I have watch videos in China of femele Electus free flight on the midel of a city let say like Manhatan, this guy has a petshop and he lets his bird fly and he keeps in touch with him by wiseling some notes with a bambu wisel

I use to have an africain grey who i train him to free outdorrs flight, he was so happy he will make figures in the sky it was really beautifull!

But you have to sart with a very good recall indors, then get him use to a place out side, it can be your own garde or you shousse a good spot.

The meteo conditions are very important, if is to hot you can louse him, also the time you fly your bird, you have to shouse the best time , that depends in your bird u have to read his body lenguish

And make sure he is not overweight! OF course no to much food when he is in training mod

At the begining ones you take him out side, you cant tie him with a corde and start a back and foth recall, you put him in a place you walk let say 5 meters and u call him, ones it works you go for 10 meters

Dont over do make small sessions of lets say 10 minutes every 2 or 3 days
Then you can take the cord off and try with out the cord, and finaly when u feel he is ready u let him fly farther, but is a big risk, but ones he learns he will always olmust come back

Some parrots breeds are beter then others Macaos are great at that

Any way even if you dont want to atempt the free outdoors fly, is always good to teach him to come back to you at recall ONE NEVER KNOWS WHAT TOMORROW WILL BE :green2:
 
Thanks, Solrac13. I was seriously considering outdoor free flight until very recently when I noticed the number of hawks in the sky around my area. Turns out quite a few people have lost their parrots to birds of prey around here! (I live in Somerset, NJ.)

I definitely do want to start outdoor harnessed flight with Bixby when it gets a little warmer, though. I'm going to start reacquainting him with the harness soon, so that he'll be ready by then. In the meantime, his recall training has been going really well. Still haven't tried working with him outside of the training room, though. (I'm being a bit of a chicken, I know. Lol!)
 
Hello, all! I finally worked up the courage to take Bixby out of the accustomed bedroom and down to the family room for his flight training sessions. The family room is where his day cage is kept, so I figured the added familiarity might help. (Though I've taken him on several tours of the entire house already as a precaution.

I started out with a straightforward perch to perch targeting exercise, maybe a distance of 15 feet. Both perches at the same height. You know, the kind of simple exercise he'd usually eat for breakfast.

Well, my poor boy ate the wall, instead. Twice in a row. Poor Bixby got so excited that all of his flight training flew right out the window! My heart was in my throat.

I held Bixby until he calmed down. He tends to get very flustered and upset anytime that he misses his intended target. (He's quite the overachiever! Lol!)

So, once both our heart rates eased down some, we gave it another try. This time I decided to lessen the flight distance to around 6 or 7 feet, and have him fly directly to me and my wife instead. This time, things
went more smoothly. As usual after a "fail", Bixby was eager to try again and again, giving his customary tail flourish to indicate how pleased he was with himself. (Showoff! Lol!)

Anyhow, just thought I'd share. Going for round two, tonight. Maybe a ten foot distance, this time. Cross your fingers!
 
Don't know why part of my post appeared as a quote of myself. Apparently I remain technologically challenged. Smh. (If you're reading this, Terry, I'm obviously having another S.P.A moment! Lol!)
 
Don't know why part of my post appeared as a quote of myself. Apparently I remain technologically challenged. Smh. (If you're reading this, Terry, I'm obviously having another S.P.A moment! Lol!)

HAHAHAHHAHA! We have got to get the meetings up and running! But wait...then I will lose all these laughs we have been having:) Please keep it up, I love it!
 

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