Is there any risk?

[caliopi]

Hi everyone

after a very gruelling few months with my sister in law ( husbands sister) being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer sadly at a terminal level when found and her recent passing I am taking my husband away to Bali for a much needed break.

One of the highlights of our trip is a visit to Bali zoo where they have an amazing hands on bird area with macaws, eckies and other parrots. I was just wondering if there is any risk to my parrots if we go and handle the macaws?

I would really love to do this but not if there is any chance of bringing a nasty bug back home. It would be a good week between handling these birds and coming home and aside from personal hygiene ( showering daily) we would be swimming everyday for long periods as our villa has it's own pool.

Any advice?

 

[antoinette]

Sorry about your loss, so sad.

I personally would never take the chance of handling another bird IF I was going home immediately.
The period is long enough after handling the birds, SO go enjoy yourself, handling the birds to your hearts desire.

Enjoy the break, you both deserve it

 

[caliopi]

Thank you Antoinette. It was a terribly few months, a real tragedy, she was only 50 and had 2 young sons, life is so unfair. I really want to give my husband an awesome trip as he has been devastated losing his younger sister and we were both exhausted running our own business and travelling interstate every couple of weeks to spend time with her.

My husband never understood my desire to get a parrot but three years later he adores Puffin and calls him his "best mate" so naturally he too was really wary about going to the parrot park and will feel a lot better about it if you all say it will be fine!

 

[PortaPerch]

Sorry for your pain, Caliopi. We recently lost a 50 yo neighbor woman to pancreatic. Our daughter-in-law has cancer in the eye, but it looks like they caught it before it spread...

 

[antoinette]

Thank you Antoinette. It was a terribly few months, a real tragedy, she was only 50 and had 2 young sons, life is so unfair. I really want to give my husband an awesome trip as he has been devastated losing his younger sister and we were both exhausted running our own business and travelling interstate every couple of weeks to spend time with her.

My husband never understood my desire to get a parrot but three years later he adores Puffin and calls him his "best mate" so naturally he too was really wary about going to the parrot park and will feel a lot better about it if you all say it will be fine!

I feel your pain, been the in same situation, be strong and have faith
You husband is one lucky fella

 

[wenz2712]

Sorry for your loss!! You go away and have a lovely time

 

[Lokums]

Have fun, handle the birds! Just don't bring any of them home with you.

 

[Elaine1080]

I have lost a couple of family members to Cancer. Sorry for your loss You go and have a great time hunni

Elaine and Oscar

 

[god61021]

very sorry to hear about your sister.

 

[Mare Miller]

So sorry for your loss, cancer sucks. I hope you enjoy your trip, I'm jellin'! (jealous)!

Has cancer always been this widely existing?! It seems like everyone I talk to has someone going through, dying from or has lost a loved one, to cancer, me included. Is it that it's being diagnosed better than previously? I don't know, kind of a scary thought...

 

[dishgal1]

So sorry for your loss, cancer sucks. I hope you enjoy your trip, I'm jellin'! (jealous)!

Has cancer always been this widely existing?! It seems like everyone I talk to has someone going through, dying from or has lost a loved one, to cancer, me included. Is it that it's being diagnosed better than previously? I don't know, kind of a scary thought...

I personally believe it is our food chain mainly and our environment. Our meat is full of growth hormones, etc, contributes to cancerl cells growing out of control, GMO foods, hydrogenated oils, artificial sweeteners, the list goes on. We only eat pasteurinzed beef anymore and organic milk and farm raised eggs. At least it cuts down on a portion of the junk available. It is hard to avoid everything.

Have a great trip and sorry for your loss Caliope.

 

[ann]

im so sorry, my aunt has luekemia, stay strong! have a blast on your trip, and let go of your worries and hold some macaws! mare miller- i know what you mean, it seems everyone knows someone with cancer. On the bright side we are learning better ways to kick its but!

 

[PetoftheDay]

Sorry for your loss, pancreatic cancer is devastating, I have had two friends die from it, and neither was diagnosed until it was rather late. Both had been smokers. There's no obvious symptoms for PC like with lung cancer an a cough, or even breast cancer and lumps ... and so slim a survival chance.

Now, on to the trip - do have a fabulous time, take LOTS of pictures for the rest of us who may never be able to go there, and tell all those birds hello from all of us!

 

[PortaPerch]

I once read a book, "The Paleolithic Prescription" written by two doctors, an anthropologist and and archaeologist. Man 30,000-10,000 years ago didn't have any of the modern chronic diseases except arthritis, from running. The average man was six feet tall, and as strong and fast as our top athletes. Then farming started, and with it single crop diets and change of lifestyle. Civilized man shrunk from that point to the 20th century, when diets really began improving, and then changing.

Sugar is a toxin.

Like in computers: Garbage In = Garbage Out.

 

[MikeyTN]

My father passed away from stomach cancer. Cancer runs in my family....I'm sorry for your loss. It is fine to visit the birds. When I do visit other birds, first thing I do before leaving the place is to sanitize my hands. Next, when I get home I remove all my clothes and place them into the washer and take a shower and put on clean clothes before attending to my birds. Sanitizing is the key!

 

[caliopi]

Thank you all for your kind messages.

I read an article a few years ago now that blamed a lot of illness on our diet. It basically said that years ago we ate foods that were in season, more salads and stone fruits in summer, more vegetables and apples,oranges banana'a in winter sort of thing and that was natures way of giving us what we needed at the right time. Now days however you can buy any food anytime, it just costs a bit more so a lot of us tend to eat our favourite foods rather than what is naturally in season rather than what we should eat. Interesting theory that I decided to put to the test so several years ago I tried to stick to seasonal food and it may be coincidence but my family cut the colds down to only one or two per year for the family.

 

[terry52449]

I am so proud to be a member of this forum. Your passion for your love of birds is much more than that. Your love of live and the rights of animals and our fellow man is wonderful. Life is short and we have to live it to the fullest. It is a sad day when someone leaves us at such a young age. But better to celebrate a life than to fill your heart with sadness and hate.