Keeping cockateils around other birds

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I understand that keeping new world birds around old works birds can kill birds like macaws and conures but what about keeping a cockateil around budgies and a ringneck.
 
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Also how is cockateil dust compared to budgies is it similar just more abundant. How many budgies would produce the same amount of dust as one cockateil.
 

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Cockatiels dust is more abundant. I don't know how many budgies produce the same amount as one cockatiel but some people don't know budgies produce dust because it is small amount. For example me - I've had budgies for 10 years (including 2 years of break time) but read about producing dust few months ago.
 

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You can never be sure whether your birds will get along. It is a case-by-case thing (although certainly there are types of birds, like macaws, that should never be housed with powder-down birds). Even 2 budgies could fight to the death, so there is always risk. You should make sure you have enough time to devote to them individually (outside of the cage/ time for separate interaction) in the event that they do not get along and have to come out one at a time.
Cockatiels are powder-down birds--- budgies and ringnecks are not, so the dander of a budgie is much less.
 

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You can never be sure whether your birds will get along. It is a case-by-case thing (although certainly there are types of birds, like macaws, that should never be housed with powder-down birds). Even 2 budgies could fight to the death, so there is always risk. You should make sure you have enough time to devote to them individually (outside of the cage/ time for separate interaction) in the event that they do not get along and have to come out one at a time.
Cockatiels are powder-down birds--- budgies and ringnecks are not, so the dander of a budgie is much less.
I thought by "keeping around" OP meant near different cages/aviaries but maybe I misunderstood. Budgies are powder-down birds but not as much as cockatiels. As I mentioned in the previous post - budgies produce so small amount of powder so it's not really dangerous to other birds (I don't include fighting etc)
 

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Yes, but what I am saying, is don't assume you can just let them all out of their cages for interaction at the same time (you may need to do 2 hours for each separately IF they don't get along, you know what I mean?). Also, a new bird needs to be quarantined for 45 days in a very far away room (ideally, a totally separate air-space, but that's not really possible in a home with central air).

You also want to make sure that you are careful about them landing on other bird's cages, as birds can lose toes this way if the bird inside take issue with it.

They could get along, they could fight, they could be on and off in terms of their relationships, and when they hit puberty, a lot could also change. It's just a gamble in some respects, so make sure you can make it work no matter what if you take the gamble.
 
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You can never be sure whether your birds will get along. It is a case-by-case thing (although certainly there are types of birds, like macaws, that should never be housed with powder-down birds). Even 2 budgies could fight to the death, so there is always risk. You should make sure you have enough time to devote to them individually (outside of the cage/ time for separate interaction) in the event that they do not get along and have to come out one at a time.
Cockatiels are powder-down birds--- budgies and ringnecks are not, so the dander of a budgie is much less.
I thought by "keeping around" OP meant near different cages/aviaries but maybe I misunderstood. Budgies are powder-down birds but not as much as cockatiels. As I mentioned in the previous post - budgies produce so small amount of powder so it's not really dangerous to other birds (I don't include fighting etc)

Parakeets aren't technically a powder down bird, but they do produce dander...at least, that has always been my understanding.

I think cockatiels, TAG/CAG and cockatoos are all powder down, but that the others are not (although they do produce dander). I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure...if they are powder down birds, it is certainly a lot less, as cockatiels, TAG/CAG and cockatoos are really the only parrots mentioned when discussing powder down.

https://lafeber.com/pet-birds/new-w...rots include Amazons,Africa, Asia, and Europe.

and this came from another website:
" All parrots give off parrot dander, also known as feather dust. This is produced from the feathers when they preen, or flap their wings. Most parrots have a preening gland at the back of the base of the tail. When a bird preens itself, secretions from this gland are spread over the feathers. For the bird, this is important for waterproofing the feathers and also has an antibacterial function. This dander is slightly sticky and hard to remove. In addition, some species of parrot also produce an additional type of feather dander that is called 'powder'. The so-called Powder Down Birds include cockatoos, cockatiels and African Greys. This kind of parrot dander comes from the specialised feathers these birds have, which shed a fine, waxy, white powder composed of keratin protein. If you stroke one of these birds, the powder will come off into your hand."

Here is another quote from a different site:

"Cockatoos, Cockatiels and African Grey Parrots are often referred to as Powder Down Birds. These species, unlike other hookbills, produce a significant amount of white somewhat sticky, oily powder that becomes airborne during preening and feather ruffling. While all species of pet birds produce feather dander dust, Powder Down Birds tend to produce significant amounts of an oily dust. People with Cockatoo's, Cockatiels or African Grey Parrots report that they have an oily white film of dust throughout their home. An example of the magnitude of the dust? While having our air conditioner serviced for the season, the service man was adamant that he had only seen this much dust in the furnace filter when drywall work had been completed in the home."
 
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