kid screaming

[Delfin]

The old lady next door has had her daughter and her family move in 3 months ago. they have three children, a girl who around 7 or 8 years old and two boys, one around 5 or 6 years old and the another is 2 or 3 years old.

The two older children constantly torment the two year old. This results in the two years screaming constantly, and I'm sure he is breathing through his ears. This happens from Monday to Friday (school days) it starts at 06:30 hrs. till 08:45 hrs. then again from 15:00 hrs. till 19:30 hrs.
on the weekends it starts at 06:30 hrs. till 20:00 hrs. But now it's school holidays so now this is happening everyday.

Now I don't have a problem with children playing and yelling, but do with a constant high pitch scream. Once I timed him screaming for 11 minutes and 37 seconds. Neighbours have started yelling out "will you shut up" Yet the mother and father do nothing.

While Delfin did have a scream in the morning and in the evening and this is normal. The real problem is that Delfin is also starting to scream throughout the day. Yes it's learnt behaviour and yes I can train to change Delfin behaviour so he will stop screaming. Except for one small problem, the little screamer is still next door.

Guess I will have to wait until they move out. I hope it sooner than later.

PS Delfin screams the same has the little screamer except a lot louder.

 

[Birdman666]

This is one of those things that I just don't get.

I would never in a million years, as a kid, get away with that sort of behavior. My kids would never get away with that sort of behavior. None of my neighbor's kids would ever think about behaving like that...

I ran into something similar in the laundrymat a few weeks ago. Two out of control little boys running wild, knocking things over. I had Maggie with me and one of them actually came up behind her and tried to pull her tail! I HAD TO STOP HIM and explain to the mother, that she needed to control her kid... Mom is playing games on her cell phone - oblivious to what her kids are doing.

Kid demanded a quarter from me. I told him I didn't have any.

A short time later I'm getting change from the machine, this kid sticks his hand in the change counter and tries to take my quarters. "Now you do." I actually had to pry my quarters out of his little fingers! "You've got lots of quarters. Why can't I have these."

Once again, mom is having a conversation on her cell phone, and doesn't appreciate being interrupted by her kid becoming a nuisance...

"What can you do?"

"How about putting away the cell phone and disciplining your kids?"

"Kids these days just don't listen." She said, passively going back to her cell phone conversation. A few minutes later, an employee of the laundrymat had the same conversation with her...

Parenting is a skill. Some folks never learned it. Their kids annoy the rest of us.

Have you ever thought about recording something like that? I'd be tempted to. A 12 minute hissy fit. And have the neighbors come over and play it back, not just for the parents, but also for the kids. And if you have 2 or 3 neighbors come over all at once... Let them know that it is causing a neighborhood nuisance, and we would appreciate it if you would keep it down, or do something to intervene and control your children...

Maybe some folks really have to be confronted with it in order to stop denying the problem and do something about it.

Others, just continue to talk on their cell phone...

 

[getwozzy]

Mark that kid in the laundromat sounds like a nightmare!! Trying to pull Maggie's tail and stealing your quarters?!

Oh man- I'm not sure I could listen to screaming constantly...I would be concerned of the two older kids abusing the youngest- I've seen some ridiculous videos [emoji51]. Maybe you should call the police to do a welfare check??

 

[Birdman666]

Mark that kid in the laundromat sounds like a nightmare!! Trying to pull Maggie's tail and stealing your quarters?!

Thank god she is as mild mannered as she is, or she would've turned around and let him have it!

I stay outside with her between loads, and shooed the kid away. EVERYONE in the laundrymat breathed a sigh of relief when they left, and it was the topic of conversation once they were gone...

It's amazing how stressful that is, and much that raises your blood pressure...

So, we definitely feel your pain.

Suffering in silence while the chaos swirls around you can only last for so long, before I would have "a talk" with my neighbor.

 

[labell]

I have NO tolerance for belligerent children or parents being oblivious to their children's rotten behavior. Thankfully I have gotten to the age and have enough white hair that I can verbally discipline the child and chastise the parents and not only get away with it but usually make them parent their kid out of shame!
My kids are grown but will still tell anyone once you get the "mommy look" from me it will stop you in your tracks. I rarely had to discipline my children in public one of "those" looks and they knew STOP and DESIST whatever it is you are doing!

 

[Terry57]

I would completely lose my mind at hearing that screaming all the time...how can the parents stand it being right there? Do you think they are wearing headphones?
We had a neighbour who opened a day care next door to us, and that drove me crazy as well. She would send these small kids into the backyard at 7am (by themselves), and they would stay out there screaming all day. I couldn't even open my windows.
She came over and said that other neighbours had turned her in because our area is not zoned for that and asked if I would sign something saying i was okay with it..I was like, ah, nope.
Thankfully they moved now and it is blessedly quiet. Hopefully the people next door to you will soon get their own place and move.

 

[Birdman666]

I have NO tolerance for belligerent children or parents being oblivious to their children's rotten behavior. Thankfully I have gotten to the age and have enough white hair that I can verbally discipline the child and chastise the parents and not only get away with it but usually make them parent their kid out of shame!
My kids are grown but will still tell anyone once you get the "mommy look" from me it will stop you in your tracks. I rarely had to discipline my children in public one of "those" looks and they knew STOP and DESIST whatever it is you are doing!

The lady at the laundrymat acted like I was the rude one for interrupting her cell phone conversation... Her idea of parenting seemed to be "not now, I'm on the phone!"

I have zero patience for it either.

I was expected to behave. My daughter is expected to behave. Her friends are expected to behave...

 

[Birdman666]

I would completely lose my mind at hearing that screaming all the time...how can the parents stand it being right there? Do you think they are wearing headphones?
We had a neighbour who opened a day care next door to us, and that drove me crazy as well. She would send these small kids into the backyard at 7am (by themselves), and they would stay out there screaming all day. I couldn't even open my windows.
She came over and said that other neighbours had turned her in because our area is not zoned for that and asked if I would sign something saying i was okay with it..I was like, ah, nope.
Thankfully they moved now and it is blessedly quiet. Hopefully the people next door to you will soon get their own place and move.

That is crappy day care as well! Lady we are paying you to SUPERVISE our kids while we are at work. Hopefully to reinforce basic healthy behaviors...

If we wanted that, we could just turn on the TV and lock them in the house.

My neighbor two doors down runs a daycare out of her house AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT!

 

[Terry57]

I would completely lose my mind at hearing that screaming all the time...how can the parents stand it being right there? Do you think they are wearing headphones?
We had a neighbour who opened a day care next door to us, and that drove me crazy as well. She would send these small kids into the backyard at 7am (by themselves), and they would stay out there screaming all day. I couldn't even open my windows.
She came over and said that other neighbours had turned her in because our area is not zoned for that and asked if I would sign something saying i was okay with it..I was like, ah, nope.
Thankfully they moved now and it is blessedly quiet. Hopefully the people next door to you will soon get their own place and move.

That is crappy day care as well! Lady we are paying you to SUPERVISE our kids while we are at work. Hopefully to reinforce basic healthy behaviors...

If we wanted that, we could just turn on the TV and lock them in the house.

My neighbor two doors down runs a daycare out of her house AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT!

I thought the same thing, Mark. They had no supervision at all, and she would use her 10 year old son to babysit them after he got home from school.

 

[Dopey]

You should really call the police or the social services office and see what they can do. Kids scream...I get that. The kids behind my house scream but they are outside and doing the screaming and it's not the crying screaming. They are just having fun. If the kids around you are screaming and not having fun...you need to report it. Please you just don't know who you may save with the phone call.

 

[Delfin]

The little screamer is not being physically abused, It's more about being mentally tormented by his siblings. I watched them from my veranda and the oldest is the worst. She will take a toy off the little screamer, he will scream then pick up a second toy. The oldest will drop the first toy and then take the second toy and throw it across the yard and then leans down into the little screamers face and laughs.

Meanwhile the middle child takes the first toy and throws it over a fence and he too gets into the little screamers face and laughs. This of course result in the little screamer screaming his head off. Now I feel sorry for the little screamer has it's not his fault. If his brother and sister played with him instead of tormenting him, then he wouldn't need to scream.

If the mother and father actually disciplined the 2 older siblings for tormenting their younger brother. Then the screaming would stop. I'm very cautious in regards to filming children. DOCS (Department Of Community Services) haven't been an option nor is the local council. Just children being children.

You need a licence to have a dog but not to have children. Lazy Parenting seems to becoming more prevalent today.
WHAT YOU WANT ME TO ATTEND TO MY CHILDREN INSTEAD OF MY PHONE.........PLEASE GO AWAY.

But today they have gone out and it all quiet on the home front for the moment.

 

[RavensGryf]

What a nightmare. I hope you get some relief soon. I agree with you I would also be wary of filming children.

Mark, I can't believe that kid at the laundry! OMG!! Messing with Maggie and stealing your money right in front of you?!! I'd be absolutely LIVID!!

 

[Kiwibird]

I would call in an anonymous tip that you heard some children screaming in a "distressed way" at such and such address. CPS (or whatever you have where you live) has to go out and check it out. Even if they aren't being physically abused by a parent, if the parents will allow that kind of behavior in clear view of neighbors, what else are the allowing behind closed doors (neglect, psychological abuse, sexual abuse???)? Abuse goes beyond physical violence and that kind of persistent torment of the young child with no adult stepping in to stop it is a future violent felon in the making. That kind of thing happening every once in a while is children being children. Being a persistent enough thing you hear it constantly, that goes above and beyond typical sibling rivalry.

 

[Delfin]

This more of a case of the older siblings been little turds to the youngest, Why?. because they can. like I said before it just lazy parenting . The parents are too wrapped up in their own lives .

A work colleague breeds the Australian Eastern Water Dragon and told me "boy did I have to jump through some hoops to get a licence". There is licence 1 and licence 2 and 2 is required for breeding. He had people from the National Parks and Wildlife Service come around to his house and check out the enclosure. The enclosure was measured and securitised, even the size and number of the ventilation holes, The position of the enclosure etc. etc.

Now I would like to point out that according to my work colleague, keeping a Australian Eastern Water Dragon is not overly difficult. But obtaining the licence is. They hibernate during the colder months, this about six months. So there is no feeding or very little. In fact during hibernation there is not much to do. When the weather warms up you feed, water and clean up after them. These reptiles require minimal care and training to keep them happy.

But the breeding and keeping of children, well you're not securitised to see if you can keep children and meet all their needs and requirements. nah nope not even a course in parenting . Unless you are adopting children which can be a nightmare to deal with. I have read that it take up to five years and a lot of money . This is a shame considering how many childless couple out in the world who would make excellent parents and how many orphaned children out in the world who would make excellent children.

My Father would tell me that "Children are the product of their Parents".
Hey Birdman666 just think what the offspring of that little kid from the laundymat will be like. It's scary, very very scary
PS: How is the nose?

Now I don't have a problem with having a licence for keeping and breeding animals. But I do have a problem with lazy, lousy and poor parenting. Unfortunately this is an issue that contains so many varieties and would be hard to deal with.

I'm thinking of training Delfin to ring a bell instead of screaming.

 

[Dopey]

The little screamer is not being physically abused, It's more about being mentally tormented by his siblings. I watched them from my veranda and the oldest is the worst. She will take a toy off the little screamer, he will scream then pick up a second toy. The oldest will drop the first toy and then take the second toy and throw it across the yard and then leans down into the little screamers face and laughs.

Meanwhile the middle child takes the first toy and throws it over a fence and he too gets into the little screamers face and laughs. This of course result in the little screamer screaming his head off. Now I feel sorry for the little screamer has it's not his fault. If his brother and sister played with him instead of tormenting him, then he wouldn't need to scream.

If the mother and father actually disciplined the 2 older siblings for tormenting their younger brother. Then the screaming would stop. I'm very cautious in regards to filming children. DOCS (Department Of Community Services) haven't been an option nor is the local council. Just children being children.

You need a licence to have a dog but not to have children. Lazy Parenting seems to becoming more prevalent today.
WHAT YOU WANT ME TO ATTEND TO MY CHILDREN INSTEAD OF MY PHONE.........PLEASE GO AWAY.

But today they have gone out and it all quiet on the home front for the moment.

If a group of kids did that at school to another kid it would be considered bullying. Not allowed. They need some counseling the whole family. It honestly does take a village to raise a child. If they were doing it to a dog, cat, or a bird would you make the call? (I'm truly not trying to be mean to you...I just want you to think about it.)

If you can't make the call to the authorities maybe you could go over and offer to help. Maybe the little one would like to come to your house and see your birds and be special at your place. Play nicely with him in your back yard so the siblings see it. Yes, the siblings can come over to your place and play BUT here are the rules...play nicely at my house or you have to go home.

Being a parent is hard and not everyone had a good example when growing up. My kids got it and the rules. My nieces and nephews got it and the rules. My neighbors kids didn't and most of the time the parents were stoned and didn't care.

Ok - I will shut up now. I'm sorry that you are going through this. I hope things work out for you however you decide to handle it.

 

[Dopey]

I'm thinking of training Delfin to ring a bell instead of screaming.

I love bells. I'm really having a hard time with Patches' screaming. Please tell me how to do this. (I know that I haven't had Patches long enough to really expect the screaming to stop but he does it even if he is covered. I refuse to move him to another room because he was kept in a basement when I got him. But the screaming...ugh!)

 

[Delfin]

Been there done that, The Authorities here say this is normal family interaction. If the child isn't physically abuse then it not concern.

All good things in life are hard, that why they are good. I raised 4 boys with very little problems.

 

[getwozzy]

I'm sorry but April is right- abuse doesn't have to be physical...it can be mental and emotional as well. You see it as just kids picking on their youngest sibling, but what you described in your earlier post is outrageous-- Definitely bullying, and I'm scared to think of what goes on behind closed doors.

I've watched videos of older siblings beating the crap out of a toddler for nothing more than their own amusement WITH THE PARENT STANDING NEARBY ignoring the situation of course. UNACCEPTABLE!!!

Normal family interaction?? Umm no. You need to go to some different authorities because none of that crap would fly.

I hope someone does something for that toddlers sake...

 

[Dopey]

Been there done that, The Authorities here say this is normal family interaction. If the child isn't physically abuse then it not concern.

All good things in life are hard, that why they are good. I raised 4 boys with very little problems.

I'm sorry for you and I'm sorry for the kid.

 

[Birdman666]

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It honestly does take a village to raise a child.

Yeah, but all too often children these days are being raised by the village idiots... when they aren't being left to raise themselves.

One of the more ironic quotes I recall was a father who had never had any real contact with his son, who was interviewed after his son had committed some horrible crime. His response - "Don't look at me, I didn't raise him!"

Exactly.