Orin started having severe seizures

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If you are in a "hospice" situation (aka, pain management for remaining quality of life with little to lose), then CBD could possibly make some sense (as a last resort, knowing there are risks), especially if the alternative is dangerous too (in theory--just hard to say)---in humans, micro-dosing is actually recommended after increasing to an initial level. It also depends on the type of CBD--Reportedly, terpenes *again, ONLY studied/reported in humans** and milligrams as well as sourcing can make a difference but it's so hard to say even what that would look like with a parrot...I am sorry I can't help more...I am not saying there is no merit to trying (because CBD can be a wonder drug in mammals-- but while it could work in parrots, there are few if any studies) I just can't say anything specific in terms of dosing or micro-dosing, but terrapins etc change a lot in humans-- so maybe research those? There was a human (who is obviously not a bird in terms of biological processing etc) but she used CBD to stop serious seizures...but she recently passed from her seizure disorder (although CBD helped for a long time). That having been said, It can sometimes be deadly when we try to translate mammal to avian, but it sounds like you are in a last-resort-mode...so maybe? ***HOWEVER-- have you tried other avian vets? because not all are created equal***

You are doing your best. I'm sorry you are dealing with all of this pain (for both you and your bird).
 
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Very sad to know Orin is seizing again with regularity. Agree with noodles above, perhaps second opinion by another avian vet?
 
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Thanks you guys. Thankfully, the seizures have been reduced in frequency to about 5 a day, mostly in the morning. That is without any cbd. I?m giving her anti-biotics and a liquid calcium supplement, since her labwork showed low calcium levels and there is a link between low calcium levels in birds and seizures. Whether either of the two are responsible for lowering the seizures, I know not. I?m just throwing everything but the kitchen sink at her. The good news is that we were at a point where she was out of it continuously, and screaming while experiencing non stop seizures, with no signs of being herself?.to this: being herself for most of the day, vocalizing, eating, being loving and playful. Her current seizures are silent ones too, which is good, because the screaming is what gets my wife fired up about putting her asleep. Note: it is difficult to get her to swallow liquids I administer via syringe: she just shakes her head to expel the liquids from her mouth. Anyone know any tricks for forcing birds to swallow liquid? I?m only giving her .5ml of liquid calcium and .2ml of anti-biotics. It?s not a lot.

I?m just so happy for the improvement.


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RIP Gandalf and Big Bird, you are missed.
Wonderful update albeit not complete cessation of seizures. Your dedication and love making a huge difference for Orin!

Syringe medication difficult even with most compliant bird! My favorite techniques include mixing liquid with plain cooked oatmeal, low salt/sugar baby food, or dissolving in small piece of bread. Trick is smallest possible decoy that Orin will completely consume for full dose. Too small and taste becomes obstacle. Caveat: Check with vet to ensure mixing is permitted, some drugs may preclude.
 

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