Teaching to like scritches - Help Please!

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Hello! I have a 6-7 month old sun named Phoebe.

I’ve had her for a couple months and she’s the sweetest! She cuddles into me and seems to like being around me.

I’ve tried to test what her boundaries are as far as petting goes. She always dodges away from my hand or finger if I try to pet her, or even lightly touch her beak.

My current approach is reaching a single finger out and gently trying to make light contact, hoping she will get used to it over time.

She also generally doesn’t like hands, except for when she’s stepping up.

I have no clue how to work towards her letting me pet her. Please teach me how!

Picture of Phoebe cuddling
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You can reward her when she accepts the scritches (praise and her favorite treat). You can also work on touching her back or laying her in your hand to get her comfortable with touch.
 
I think you need to accept that most adult birds don't like to be petted. Baby parrots usually enjoy being cuddled and having their bodies touched (petted), but once weaned and fedged they usually don't, with occasional exceptions.

When you adopted her, did you envision having a bird that you could pet like a dog or a cat? If so, where did you get this idea, because it's not realistic.

She's already communicated to you that she doesn't want to be petted, and your efforts to change this may very well lead to her biting to get her message across and I'm sure you don't want that! Right now, she's let you know that she likes you and trusts you enough to seek out your company and snuggle up to you. Don't ruin that by pushing her.

At some point she may ask for and accept head scratches but they need to done when and how the bird wants them. If they'll want a scratch they will usually be in a very calm state to start with and bow their head forward exposing the back of the head and neck with feathers ruffled a bit. Then you slowly reach over the front of their head with your fingers bent, gently touch the back of the head or neck and draw you fingers forward using your fingertips and fingernails to gently loosen the feathers. When this is done when and how the bird wants its like birdie nirvana! They may only want it done for a few seconds maybe as long as a minute or two. If you don't do it "right" or if you hit a sensitive spot like a growing bloodfeather they let you know.

As far as disliking human hands goes, it's very common for even handraised parrots to decide they don't like hands. I don't know for sure why but I have a theory that some birds figure out pretty young that human hands can control and restrain them against their will so they decide to avoid them entirely. When I need to move my no-hands birds from one place to another or in and out of the cage, I use a stick perch. You could try wearing a long sleeved sweatshirt and pulling the sleeve cuffs over your hands so she can't see them. Sometimes that's all it takes.

Good luck with Phoebe! She sounds like a great bird.
 
Parrots move at their own pace. This is based on breed, individual personality, your personality and environment. They must trust you. Patience is the key. You honestly can't have enough of patience. Learn her body language and tells. This will decrease frustration on both sides. Knowing her tells will give you a good base. Give lots of verbal praise randomly and with the slightest desired behavior. Give verbal and a treats as you work with her. Even though it's training you want it enjoyable. Ignore undesired response. You want to avoid her using negative responses to train you to do what she wants. Yes it happens a lot. Be prepared for the testing of limits. My CAG loves to be held. Head scritches, cuddles are strictly on her terms. I know her tells. Unless something is necessary I give verbal praise and leave her alone. Go through the forums and online reading. Remember no matter what the speaker is saying or recommending it isn't written in stone. Use it as a basis.
 
I think you need to accept that most adult birds don't like to be petted. Baby parrots usually enjoy being cuddled and having their bodies touched (petted), but once weaned and fedged they usually don't, with occasional exceptions.

When you adopted her, did you envision having a bird that you could pet like a dog or a cat? If so, where did you get this idea, because it's not realistic.

She's already communicated to you that she doesn't want to be petted, and your efforts to change this may very well lead to her biting to get her message across and I'm sure you don't want that! Right now, she's let you know that she likes you and trusts you enough to seek out your company and snuggle up to you. Don't ruin that by pushing her.

At some point she may ask for and accept head scratches but they need to done when and how the bird wants them. If they'll want a scratch they will usually be in a very calm state to start with and bow their head forward exposing the back of the head and neck with feathers ruffled a bit. Then you slowly reach over the front of their head with your fingers bent, gently touch the back of the head or neck and draw you fingers forward using your fingertips and fingernails to gently loosen the feathers. When this is done when and how the bird wants its like birdie nirvana! They may only want it done for a few seconds maybe as long as a minute or two. If you don't do it "right" or if you hit a sensitive spot like a growing bloodfeather they let you know.

As far as disliking human hands goes, it's very common for even handraised parrots to decide they don't like hands. I don't know for sure why but I have a theory that some birds figure out pretty young that human hands can control and restrain them against their will so they decide to avoid them entirely. When I need to move my no-hands birds from one place to another or in and out of the cage, I use a stick perch. You could try wearing a long sleeved sweatshirt and pulling the sleeve cuffs over your hands so she can't see them. Sometimes that's all it takes.

Good luck with Phoebe! She sounds like a great bird.
I had a GCC before Phoebe who didn’t like pets at first, just like Phoebe. The GCC didn’t even like cuddling like Phoebe does, but fast forward some time and my GCC could never stop asking for pets. I am aware that not all birds like pets. But if I can discover that Phoebe likes them, given a certain level of trust and bonding, I want to see.
 
I had a GCC before Phoebe who didn’t like pets at first, just like Phoebe. The GCC didn’t even like cuddling like Phoebe does, but fast forward some time and my GCC could never stop asking for pets. I am aware that not all birds like pets. But if I can discover that Phoebe likes them, given a certain level of trust and bonding, I want to see.
I think you need to accept that most adult birds don't like to be petted. Baby parrots usually enjoy being cuddled and having their bodies touched (petted), but once weaned and fedged they usually don't, with occasional exceptions.

When you adopted her, did you envision having a bird that you could pet like a dog or a cat? If so, where did you get this idea, because it's not realistic.

She's already communicated to you that she doesn't want to be petted, and your efforts to change this may very well lead to her biting to get her message across and I'm sure you don't want that! Right now, she's let you know that she likes you and trusts you enough to seek out your company and snuggle up to you. Don't ruin that by pushing her.

At some point she may ask for and accept head scratches but they need to done when and how the bird wants them. If they'll want a scratch they will usually be in a very calm state to start with and bow their head forward exposing the back of the head and neck with feathers ruffled a bit. Then you slowly reach over the front of their head with your fingers bent, gently touch the back of the head or neck and draw you fingers forward using your fingertips and fingernails to gently loosen the feathers. When this is done when and how the bird wants its like birdie nirvana! They may only want it done for a few seconds maybe as long as a minute or two. If you don't do it "right" or if you hit a sensitive spot like a growing bloodfeather they let you know.

As far as disliking human hands goes, it's very common for even handraised parrots to decide they don't like hands. I don't know for sure why but I have a theory that some birds figure out pretty young that human hands can control and restrain them against their will so they decide to avoid them entirely. When I need to move my no-hands birds from one place to another or in and out of the cage, I use a stick perch. You could try wearing a long sleeved sweatshirt and pulling the sleeve cuffs over your hands so she can't see them. Sometimes that's all it takes.

Good luck with Phoebe! She sounds like a great bird.
To be clear I always approach slowly and back off if she tells me no. If i see she’s stressed, I’ll leave her be.
 
I think you need to accept that most adult birds don't like to be petted. Baby parrots usually enjoy being cuddled and having their bodies touched (petted), but once weaned and fedged they usually don't, with occasional exceptions.

When you adopted her, did you envision having a bird that you could pet like a dog or a cat? If so, where did you get this idea, because it's not realistic.

She's already communicated to you that she doesn't want to be petted, and your efforts to change this may very well lead to her biting to get her message across and I'm sure you don't want that! Right now, she's let you know that she likes you and trusts you enough to seek out your company and snuggle up to you. Don't ruin that by pushing her.

At some point she may ask for and accept head scratches but they need to done when and how the bird wants them. If they'll want a scratch they will usually be in a very calm state to start with and bow their head forward exposing the back of the head and neck with feathers ruffled a bit. Then you slowly reach over the front of their head with your fingers bent, gently touch the back of the head or neck and draw you fingers forward using your fingertips and fingernails to gently loosen the feathers. When this is done when and how the bird wants its like birdie nirvana! They may only want it done for a few seconds maybe as long as a minute or two. If you don't do it "right" or if you hit a sensitive spot like a growing bloodfeather they let you know.

As far as disliking human hands goes, it's very common for even handraised parrots to decide they don't like hands. I don't know for sure why but I have a theory that some birds figure out pretty young that human hands can control and restrain them against their will so they decide to avoid them entirely. When I need to move my no-hands birds from one place to another or in and out of the cage, I use a stick perch. You could try wearing a long sleeved sweatshirt and pulling the sleeve cuffs over your hands so she can't see them. Sometimes that's all it takes.

Good luck with Phoebe! She sounds like a great bird.
So to clarify I’m aware she may never want pets, but if I can learn anything that would help her want or like them, or even just be more comfortable, then that’s great
 
I think you need to accept that most adult birds don't like to be petted. Baby parrots usually enjoy being cuddled and having their bodies touched (petted), but once weaned and fedged they usually don't, with occasional exceptions.

When you adopted her, did you envision having a bird that you could pet like a dog or a cat? If so, where did you get this idea, because it's not realistic.

She's already communicated to you that she doesn't want to be petted, and your efforts to change this may very well lead to her biting to get her message across and I'm sure you don't want that! Right now, she's let you know that she likes you and trusts you enough to seek out your company and snuggle up to you. Don't ruin that by pushing her.

At some point she may ask for and accept head scratches but they need to done when and how the bird wants them. If they'll want a scratch they will usually be in a very calm state to start with and bow their head forward exposing the back of the head and neck with feathers ruffled a bit. Then you slowly reach over the front of their head with your fingers bent, gently touch the back of the head or neck and draw you fingers forward using your fingertips and fingernails to gently loosen the feathers. When this is done when and how the bird wants its like birdie nirvana! They may only want it done for a few seconds maybe as long as a minute or two. If you don't do it "right" or if you hit a sensitive spot like a growing bloodfeather they let you know.

As far as disliking human hands goes, it's very common for even handraised parrots to decide they don't like hands. I don't know for sure why but I have a theory that some birds figure out pretty young that human hands can control and restrain them against their will so they decide to avoid them entirely. When I need to move my no-hands birds from one place to another or in and out of the cage, I use a stick perch. You could try wearing a long sleeved sweatshirt and pulling the sleeve cuffs over your hands so she can't see them. Sometimes that's all it takes.

Good luck with Phoebe! She sounds like a great bird.
Parrots move at their own pace. This is based on breed, individual personality, your personality and environment. They must trust you. Patience is the key. You honestly can't have enough of patience. Learn her body language and tells. This will decrease frustration on both sides. Knowing her tells will give you a good base. Give lots of verbal praise randomly and with the slightest desired behavior. Give verbal and a treats as you work with her. Even though it's training you want it enjoyable. Ignore undesired response. You want to avoid her using negative responses to train you to do what she wants. Yes it happens a lot. Be prepared for the testing of limits. My CAG loves to be held. Head scritches, cuddles are strictly on her terms. I know her tells. Unless something is necessary I give verbal praise and leave her alone. Go through the forums and online reading. Remember no matter what the speaker is saying or recommending it isn't written in stone. Use it as a basis.
thank you! That’s one of the things I haven’t worked on as much, learning her tells. I’ll keep at it with patience
 
A lot of bird training starts with desensitization. I have been training my Amazon to allow me to rest my hand gently on her back, and lift each wing individually. I’m doing so, so that I can try harness training with her. I’m also able to do so, as she loves to train, and is very trusting of my hands. I certainly would not be doing this if she was not a willing participant.

To start this process, I started by clicker training her to allow me to hold my hand/fingers a few inches above her. No movement, just holding my hand there. Once she was relaxed/ignoring my hand, I’d click and give her a reward. I slowly progressed, over many training sessions, to moving my hand closer and eventually being able to touch her. You can use this same concept by slowly and gently progressing to touch her head lightly with a finger. Some birds will allow this to progress into scritching, which can become self-rewarding (no treat required). Many birds will make it very clear that touching them is not okay. It depends on the bird, so just be patient and pay very close attention to your girl’s body language. She’ll let you know if scratching is possible or not.
 
A lot of bird training starts with desensitization. I have been training my Amazon to allow me to rest my hand gently on her back, and lift each wing individually. I’m doing so, so that I can try harness training with her. I’m also able to do so, as she loves to train, and is very trusting of my hands. I certainly would not be doing this if she was not a willing participant.

To start this process, I started by clicker training her to allow me to hold my hand/fingers a few inches above her. No movement, just holding my hand there. Once she was relaxed/ignoring my hand, I’d click and give her a reward. I slowly progressed, over many training sessions, to moving my hand closer and eventually being able to touch her. You can use this same concept by slowly and gently progressing to touch her head lightly with a finger. Some birds will allow this to progress into scritching, which can become self-rewarding (no treat required). Many birds will make it very clear that touching them is not okay. It depends on the bird, so just be patient and pay very close attention to your girl’s body language. She’ll let you know if scratching is possible or not.
This is as close to the exact information I was looking for as I can get, thank you!
 

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