Wanting to get a new bird

[MayMaroa]

Hi i want to get a new bird but you guys would say that I am selfish to get a new bird when I cant give vet care but they will be in a better condition than they used to be I can give them two friends food treats toys the only thing i cant is vet care there are a lot of birds in such bad condition i would give them a better life then the life that they used to have I will give them a better environment why i had been thinking about this first i want new bird second tofu really wants a new friend so should i get a bird?

 

[BirdyBee]

Hi i want to get a new bird but you guys would say that I am selfish to get a new bird when I cant give vet care but they will be in a better condition than they used to be I can give them two friends food treats toys the only thing i cant is vet care there are a lot of birds in such bad condition i would give them a better life then the life that they used to have I will give them a better environment why i had been thinking about this first i want new bird second tofu really wants a new friend so should i get a bird?

May, is this bird you want to adopt ill? If so, you are putting your flock at risk.

IF you get another bird, you need to isolate it for at least 1-2 months.

You mentioned your parents not trusting the vet is the biggest issue, rather than no vets available or expenses. You're from Malaysia, right? Here is a list created by the mod team here, it's in the post "avian vet resources":

List Of Avian/Exotics Veterinarian, Malaysia

This list was first compiled on 23 December, 2021 and is current as per that date. It is not intended as an endorsement or recommendation of any particular clinic. It is advisable to call ahead to ensure avian vet availability, as avian specialists are often mobile and operate between several cli...

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Do you have enough money to afford food, toys, and cages for your current birds?

What type of bird do you want to get?

May, remember, buying birds from people who abuse their birds and irresponsibly breed them is indirectly supporting them. Unless you are adopting one from a person, I don't reccomend it.

I hope more experienced members see this soon. Good luck!

Anè

 

[StormyPica]

Good advice from Pipp. Let me add, if you take in a sick bird, it will most likely need a vet. I recommend you find a responsible breeder with high-quality birds, instead of putting your other bird(s) at risk.

 

[foxgloveparrot]

100% agree with Pipp and Stormy.

May, you are not selfish. I am so glad you want to give another little birdy a better life. But like Pipp said, getting a sick bird puts your flock at risk, you need to quarantine ANY new bird for at least 30 days, and if you get a bird that’s very sick, you will need vet care.
What species do you want? Are you doing research (100 hours minimum before another bird)? Can you afford the cage, toys, perches, food, and other supplies? Do you have space? Do you have time? Are you ready for a commitment that will change your life forever (that’s a good thing, but also something that needs a LOT of thought)? These are all questions to consider and if you know you can’t care for another bird (I’m not referring to the vet thing) then that means you sadly can’t get one for the time being.
This doesn’t mean you can’t ever get another bird. I suggest holding off on it for a little while, but I am one voice among many. Just keep doing research. I wish you only the best, May, whether or not you get another bird, and good luck

 

[HeatherG]

I wonder if you want another bird because you’re lonely? I ask that because that’s why I had birds when I was a kid.

Could you do more school related or church related activities to meet more people and make friends? Birds are very nice but they don’t replace human friends—at least not completely.

My Lucy could talk a lot and loved music and she helped me to be less lonely for company but Willow doesn’t talk much. He’s very sweet but it’s not as much like a little person. So I am going to start going to the library, to farmers market outdoors, to coffee shops as my old friends have mostly moved away.

You are right that there ARE many people who don’t take good care of their birds. I used to live in a very rural place and people weren’t too nice to their animals. So maybe you would give a new bird a slightly better home, but you’d also be RESPONSIBLE FOR another bird.

That means time and attention and cleaning and care as well as a home.

Are you sure you would want MORE responsibilities?

With best wishes, Heather and Willow and Jasper, too

 

[MayMaroa]

First thanks for replying

May, is this bird you want to adopt ill?

I still didn't look for a bird so i still didn't do an action for it i am still thinking about it

IF you get another bird, you need to isolate it for at least 1-2 months.

Yeah i have no problem with that and it won't be isolated a lot because I will talk read to it just always stay with the bird of course i will leave it and not get so close to the bird for the first 2 days

You mentioned your parents not trusting the vet is the biggest issue, rather than no vets available or expenses. You're from Malaysia, right? Here is a list created by the mod team here, it's in the post "avian vet resources":

i know i have seen it there is a really good avian vet near us that we used to go there before two of my birds passed away my family just says that they couldn't help kiwi and they say about hope that the medication was too strong for her ( they said the vet couldn't help both of the birds then why should we go there ) we used to there but after two of my birds passed away in January we never went again so my parents do not trust the vet is the biggest and only issue

Do you have enough money to afford food, toys, and cages for your current birds?

yaa i have a saving account and the money in there is pretty high so i can afford toys food and treats and i can afford another cage

What type of bird do you want to get?

well a budgie conure or a cockteil

 

[MayMaroa]

Good advice from Pipp. Let me add, if you take in a sick bird, it will most likely need a vet. I recommend you find a responsible breeder with high-quality birds, instead of putting your other bird(s) at risk.

yaa i found a very clean pet shop

 

[BirdyBee]

First thanks for replying

I still didn't look for a bird so i still didn't do an action for it i am still thinking about it

Yeah i have no problem with that and it won't be isolated a lot because I will talk read to it just always stay with the bird of course i will leave it and not get so close to the bird for the first 2 days

You'll need to wash your hands after interacting with the bird before touching your flock, just as an extra safety measure.

i know i have seen it there is a really good avian vet near us that we used to go there before two of my birds passed away my family just says that they couldn't help kiwi and they say about hope that the medication was too strong for her ( they said the vet couldn't help both of the birds then why should we go there ) we used to there but after two of my birds passed away in January we never went again so my parents do not trust the vet is the biggest and only issue

So sorry that your birds passed away..

Is there any way you can convince them to allow you to take them to a vet?

IMO if the bird looks perfectly healthy a vet visit isn't 100% nessecary.

yaa i have a saving account and the money in there is pretty high so i can afford toys food and treats and i can afford another cage

I also have a savings account, I save my money so I can spend it on the birds or things that I want, mostly birds because I have all I need.

Well a budgie conure or a cockteil

Cockatiels make lovely companions, as they are usually attention lovers. This can be an issue if you can't interact with them a lot, or if you don't want a clingy bird.

 

[MayMaroa]

ANY new bird for at least 30 days, and if you get a bird that’s very sick, you will need vet care.

But at least i can give it the best last days of its life in a clean cage food treats vegetable toys or if luck goes on my side the bird recovers from me spending sleepless nights it would recover if luck goes on my side and i know i will quarantine it

Are you doing research (100 hours minimum before another bird)?

No, i still didn't start research because i am still thinking about if i should get a bird or not

What species do you want?

as i said budgie conure or a cockatiel

Can you afford the cage, toys, perches, food, and other supplies?

yes i can afford ir

Do you have space?

yes i have
lots of space

Do you have time?

Yes even though i have school i always spend a lot of time (i am homeschooling and my school starts 3pm afternoon untill 5:15 pm so i am always home.

Are you ready for a commitment that will change your life forever (that’s a good thing, but also something that needs a LOT of thought)?

yaaa i know i am still think a lot about it y

This doesn’t mean you can’t ever get another bird. I suggest holding off on it for a little while

yaa i know if i ever get another bird i wont get the bird this month maybe if i get a bird i will get it
in July

wish you only the best, May, whether or not you get another bird, and good luck

ty

 

[MayMaroa]

Is there any way you can convince them to allow you to take them to a vet?

There is unfortunately no way i have tried thousands of times and i say i will pay and they are just NO

I also have a savings account, I save my money so I can spend it on the birds or things that I want, mostly birds because I have all I need.

Yaa me too after getting my birds i never and really never wanted to spend anything on myself just seeing those happy smiles in my bird's faces is everything right?

Cockatiels make lovely companions, as they are usually attention lovers. This can be an issue if you can't interact with them a lot, or if you don't want a clingy bird.

yaa i cant clingy bird like a cockteil my bird sky is a CLINGY bird she literlly one time when i was kissing her on the beak she started doing the motions where when the bird goes and amtae with his mate theshe does thismotion like see the pic(she starts lifting her face up in the same motion wehn birds go on each other(mating)

you se the bird under she did it 2 times did it today she did it on the morning when i was kissing her

 

[MayMaroa]

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I wonder if you want another bird because you’re lonely? I ask that because that’s why I had birds when I was a kid.

oh i am not lonely my bird sky never leaves me I want a bird for tofu and me because i think she really wants a new friend(NOT A MATE)

Could you do more school related or church related activities to meet more people and make friends?

oh actually i am not a Christian i am a Muslim

You are right that there ARE many people who don’t take good care of their birds. I used to live in a very rural place and people weren’t too nice to their animals. So maybe you would give a new bird a slightly better home, but you’d also be RESPONSIBLE FOR another bird.

Yup i know that's why i am not putting any action into it I am still thinking and i feel always so bad for the birds who are treated so badly it just breaks my heart, slightly better? i would give it a better home like they don't have toys vegetables and clean cage and free time it won't better it would be much better i would give them everything except vet care

That means time and attention and cleaning and care as well as a home.

ik i am thinking about it a lot

Are you sure you would want MORE responsibilities?

yaa because it feels good when you're doing something for someone who nobody cares about and then you love him and make him know he is loved and not hated and not cared for like giving them a second chance.

 

[MayMaroa]

With best wishes, Heather and Willow and Jasper, too

tyvm

 

[BirdyBee]

There is unfortunately no way i have tried thousands of times and i say i will pay and they are just NO

I thought so... maybe try looking up some herbs/spices that can cure/prevent certain illnesses? I know, it doesn't replace vet care but it's better than nothing.

Yaa me too after getting my birds i never and really never wanted to spend anything on myself just seeing those happy smiles in my bird's faces is everything right?

I don't really have anything else to spend my money on except plants which is my other passion

yaa i cant clingy bird like a cockteil my bird sky is a CLINGY bird she literlly one time when i was kissing her on the beak she started doing the motions where when the bird goes and mate with his mate theshe does thismotion like see the pic(she starts lifting her face up in the same motion wehn birds go on each other(mating)
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you se the bird under she did it 2 times did it today she did it on the morning when i was kissing her

I've seen birds mating before(my own birds too) so I know what it looks like..

You need to try prevent mating behaviour as it leads to hormones which may lead to eggs eggs which can lead to chronic egg laying..

 

[MayMaroa]

I thought so... maybe try looking up some herbs/spices that can cure/prevent certain illnesses? I know, it doesn't replace vet care but it's better than nothing.

well yaa I will do it and your right it better than nothing

 

[MayMaroa]

I don't really have anything else to spend my money on except plants which is my other passion

me too

I've seen birds mating before(my own birds too) so I know what it looks like..

You need to try prevent mating behaviour as it leads to hormones which may lead to eggs eggs which can lead to chronic egg laying..

yaa its very awkward i always try
i used to think does sky love me and now i am like yaa she loves as her mate very awkward guess i have to stop kissing her and singing to her for a while

 

[MayMaroa]

I thought so... maybe try looking up some herbs/spices that can cure/prevent certain illnesses? I know, it doesn't replace vet care but it's better than nothing.

I don't really have anything else to spend my money on except plants which is my other passion

I've seen birds mating before(my own birds too) so I know what it looks like..

You need to try prevent mating behaviour as it leads to hormones which may lead to eggs eggs which can lead to chronic egg laying..

if you were in my position you have two birds but cant do vet care but one of your birds wants a new friend and you want a new friend too would you get another bird?

 

[BirdyBee]

if you were in my position you have two birds but cant do vet care but one of your birds wants a new friend and you want a new friend too would you get another bird?

Honestly- I don't know. My parents sometimes let me take them to a vet but not always. I've never been in your position.

I don't want any more birds because I already fear that when I get my own home/apartment, I'll have a hard time finding a place that accepts birds and I may not be very time rich. Also, if a fatal illness spreads through the flock I may lose 6 birds at once

 

[MayMaroa]

Honestly- I don't know. My parents sometimes let me take them to a vet but not always. I've never been in your position.

i said if you were

I don't want any more birds because I already fear that when I get my own home/apartment, I'll have a hard time finding a place that accepts birds and I may not be very time rich

well i do not fear that because i am still 11

if a fatal illness spreads through the flock I may lose 6 birds at once

That's why i am still thinking about it

 

[BirdyBee]

i said if you were

That's why I said "I don't know", because, well, I don't know, as in I have no clue.

well i do not fear that because i am still 11

That's good, but I am at an age where moving out is something that may happen in the not so near future, so that's why I said I'm concerned about my birds. Also, some budgies can live 10-15 years and I assume by 20 years old you'll likely already be planning to move out someday.

That's why i am still thinking about it

Yes that's fine, again I was talking about my concerns with my personal flock.

 

[MayMaroa]

That's good, but I am at an age where moving out is something that may happen in the not so near future, so that's why I said I'm concerned about my birds. Also, some budgies can live 10-15 years and I assume by 20 years old you'll likely already be planning to move out

Yaa your right but if i ever move out no matter what even if it will take me to the end of the earth for my birds to stay with me (hopefully they live a long life) i will do anything