Brisch
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- Jul 26, 2012
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I have a Cinnamon GCC (Honey)
and a BCC (Conrad)AKA Connie
GCC (Jinx)
3x Goffin2 (Liam)(Mya)(Goose)
2x B&G Macaw (Cozzy)(Blue)
Heres the short story, If you want more info or to get the whole story read down. I rescued 2 conures, a male (fiery shoulder) and a female (GCC). they were being sold as a breeding pair. they were being housed in a (18 L x 14 W x 20 in H) vision cage together, only had 2 perches, canary food and water dish in the cage. Neither one of these birds had tails, the male had plucked his chest and their beaks are damaged as if they were hit with something when they bit. I have them in a (34L x 18W x 34H) cage with a few toys, cozy hut, lots of perches, and pellets. I work with them every day to try and build their trust, I let them interact with my Black capped conure and my cinnamon GCC. Why do people buy these things and dont bother to learn anything about them before they do. If anyone has any suggestions on how to help win their trust or any suggestions period I am open to them. I will post some pictures in the next post.
Im going to give a list of names so you know what Im talking about when I tell the story.
Linda - very well known very reputable conure breeder in my area
John - not his real name, but what I will be calling the culprit
On Sunday may 5th I attended a bird mart, its where people in my area get together and breeders can sell birds and other people sell supplies (toys, cages, food, supplements, ect). I spent a lot of time there walking around with my cinnamon green cheek conure and my black capped conure on my shoulder. People asking me questions about how they are so well trained that they dont try to fly away or ump off, they just sit nicely. I love telling how Ive made things work, my ways are maybe different then other peoples and it may be helpful. Anyways, I was speaking with linda for quite some time, went around the mart a few times. The third time or so around I noticed 2 conures on the table paralelle to lindas table. I asked her what re those? She replied "well one is a fiery shoulder conure the other is a green cheek". The next question was, why dont they have tails? she answered "I dont know, I cant ask John because if I do I will start a fight, but can you ask him and find out? I said of course Ill find out. I asked the man, why dont these birds have tails? Johns response was "well my kids were playing with them". In my head im thinking WTF were your kids doing with these birds that their tails were ripped out. The I asked John, are they a pair? He responds "yes they are a breeding pair".
I left the bird mart shortly after, I had no idea that these birds he was with were for sale. I told my mother the story. I figured she´d be mad about me even thinking about buying more birds. She asked me if I wanted to go back to the mart and offer the man some money for the birds. Of course I wanted to. When I got there they were gone. I asked linda if the birds were for sale, she told me she thought they were. I asked the people running the mart if they had any info for this John and if they were aware of the condition his birds were in, they didnt have his info and he just walked in last minute and asked if he could sell his birds.
I spent the next few days searching craigslist and kijiji for an ad for these birds. I felt so bad I didnt buy them when I saw them. Well I found them for sale on Kijiji, I emailed him and had a meeting the next day.
John kept changing the time he wanted to meet, so I wind up having to take the train to his place to get them. When I get there these birds are living in Vision Bird Cage for small birds (S01) - Small Wire, single height (18 L x 14 W x 20 in H) . 2 conures in this tiny cage, in this cage was 1 food ( canary seed) 1 tiny hang on water dish. the 2 perches that come with the cage and nothing else. The man said he wanted $400 for both birds I told him I wouldnt pay over $300. He accepts.
When I got these birds home I have a chance to inspect them. both birds beaks are damaged, looks like they were hit with something. neither one of them had a tail. and the male (fiery shoulder) had plucked most of hist chest probably due to stress. These birds are terrified of people, not that I blame them if someone ripped a chunk of my hair out I would probably avoid them as well. They are so skinny its sick. I threw the cage he gave me in the trash, and put them in a (34 L x 18 W x 34 H)
lots of perches, a couple toys (which they had never seen before and were scared of) a cozy hut, and pellets to eat. I will do my best to try and make them not afraid of people anymore, and give them a good diet so they can grow thier feathers back but it will take some time. I put them on the play gym I have with my other 2 conures and if I pickup my conures first I can touch the new birds, they still dont want to be picked up and they do not step up.
I guess the biggest points for me were that this guy knew nothing about these birds
1. he bought a "breeding pair" for his kids and wondered why they couldnt touch them
2. they are different species and shouldnt be bred
3. He wasnt feeding them or housing in any sort of appropriate way
4. he saw nothing wrong with the condition these birds are in
Im going to give a list of names so you know what Im talking about when I tell the story.
Linda - very well known very reputable conure breeder in my area
John - not his real name, but what I will be calling the culprit
On Sunday may 5th I attended a bird mart, its where people in my area get together and breeders can sell birds and other people sell supplies (toys, cages, food, supplements, ect). I spent a lot of time there walking around with my cinnamon green cheek conure and my black capped conure on my shoulder. People asking me questions about how they are so well trained that they dont try to fly away or ump off, they just sit nicely. I love telling how Ive made things work, my ways are maybe different then other peoples and it may be helpful. Anyways, I was speaking with linda for quite some time, went around the mart a few times. The third time or so around I noticed 2 conures on the table paralelle to lindas table. I asked her what re those? She replied "well one is a fiery shoulder conure the other is a green cheek". The next question was, why dont they have tails? she answered "I dont know, I cant ask John because if I do I will start a fight, but can you ask him and find out? I said of course Ill find out. I asked the man, why dont these birds have tails? Johns response was "well my kids were playing with them". In my head im thinking WTF were your kids doing with these birds that their tails were ripped out. The I asked John, are they a pair? He responds "yes they are a breeding pair".
I left the bird mart shortly after, I had no idea that these birds he was with were for sale. I told my mother the story. I figured she´d be mad about me even thinking about buying more birds. She asked me if I wanted to go back to the mart and offer the man some money for the birds. Of course I wanted to. When I got there they were gone. I asked linda if the birds were for sale, she told me she thought they were. I asked the people running the mart if they had any info for this John and if they were aware of the condition his birds were in, they didnt have his info and he just walked in last minute and asked if he could sell his birds.
I spent the next few days searching craigslist and kijiji for an ad for these birds. I felt so bad I didnt buy them when I saw them. Well I found them for sale on Kijiji, I emailed him and had a meeting the next day.
John kept changing the time he wanted to meet, so I wind up having to take the train to his place to get them. When I get there these birds are living in Vision Bird Cage for small birds (S01) - Small Wire, single height (18 L x 14 W x 20 in H) . 2 conures in this tiny cage, in this cage was 1 food ( canary seed) 1 tiny hang on water dish. the 2 perches that come with the cage and nothing else. The man said he wanted $400 for both birds I told him I wouldnt pay over $300. He accepts.
When I got these birds home I have a chance to inspect them. both birds beaks are damaged, looks like they were hit with something. neither one of them had a tail. and the male (fiery shoulder) had plucked most of hist chest probably due to stress. These birds are terrified of people, not that I blame them if someone ripped a chunk of my hair out I would probably avoid them as well. They are so skinny its sick. I threw the cage he gave me in the trash, and put them in a (34 L x 18 W x 34 H)
lots of perches, a couple toys (which they had never seen before and were scared of) a cozy hut, and pellets to eat. I will do my best to try and make them not afraid of people anymore, and give them a good diet so they can grow thier feathers back but it will take some time. I put them on the play gym I have with my other 2 conures and if I pickup my conures first I can touch the new birds, they still dont want to be picked up and they do not step up.
I guess the biggest points for me were that this guy knew nothing about these birds
1. he bought a "breeding pair" for his kids and wondered why they couldnt touch them
2. they are different species and shouldnt be bred
3. He wasnt feeding them or housing in any sort of appropriate way
4. he saw nothing wrong with the condition these birds are in