well this bird is male, he is 12 years old, no I haven't gone to see him, he was posted for sale in an ad, he said he only used him for breeding and kept him out in an aviary. I believe he was un socialized because he told me he wouldn't make a good pet, just a good breeder. He said he is only selling him to make more room, but honestly, the more I thought about it, the more I think I'm going to pass, if I had experience with amazons, I probably would, but I have never had one and just don't know if I would be good with one, as far as taming one. I have been looking for a bird for about 6-8 months now, but all the ones I have answered an ad to ends up being wild untame birds that were only used to breeding. another person I talked to is selling a pair of quakers and a pair of blue indian ringnecks, he said the same thing, they are not pets only breeders but I think I have a better chance at taming them than the amazon. I bought a pair of sun conures a couple of months ago, they were breeders and very mean!! they bit the poop out of us never thought they would calm down, but now they come out of the cage, they sit on our shoulders and even give us kisses!! sweetest babies now. so im sure i'd be fine with these guys, just not sure with the amazon!!