Zits on my plucker. Help!

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For those who don't know the backstory, she came to us after being locked away for over three years with no contact and no baths for five years.

She just got her third bath here in a week, first one using King's Feather Shine shampoo and while snuggling post-bath, I gave her a very close examination after discovering her clogged pyrogial preening gland. I found 5-6 large zit-looking things on her back, and upon squeezing, they had the same type of sebaceous cyst type stuff come out.

My opinion is it's from not bathing for FIVE freaking years. It could easily be old ingrown feathers. After all, she was greasy and dark when she came to us and now she has brilliant color. After the new shampoo today, her feathers didn't feel brittle for once.

Also, under magnification, I realized what came through the skin with her gland was actually a separate zit that popped. So her gland was blocked but not abscessed. This is GOOD news.

Edit: I found this thread http://www.parrotforums.com/eclectus/35102-high-cholesterol.html and I am terrified she has high cholesterol. These "zits" contain a yellow substance, and they very well could be cholesterol deposits under the skin. I am going to get her into an avian vet locally ASAP and do whatever I have to do to reverse this condition.

2nd edit: after more reading, the good news is I've already unknowingly begun the prescribed treatment to cure high cholesterol! She is on 95% low fat diet, with many of the special ingredients recommended for high cholesterol,including white beans, chard, leafy greens, etc. The article I read said to have a cholesterol recheck done two weeks after beginning the proper diet. It's been almost one week at this point, so I am going to schedule her with the vet next week. This should give me a better idea if these are cholesterol-related or simply a secondary response to her feather plucking and presence of excess sebum due to having no baths for five freaking years.

I looked at many photos of xanthomas and these don't look at all like anything I saw. They truly look like zits and are much flatter than any xanthoma I saw- they were in specific pores, did not move independently of the skin like a cyst would, and are present on the back only. Many xanthomas present on the wings and breast area, and hers are clear from what I can tell.

Getting into the vet is our next mission. I only leave the house once a month for my doctor's appointments so I will have to plan on adding this outing to my schedule. I am not as worked up now that I've read this excellent resource on Avian skin diseases and disorders as well as many other articles by reputable veterinarians and medical professionals.

You can kind of see them in this photo.
 
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Brittany, I'm no vet, but no, they certainly do NOT look anything like Xanthomas. Xanthomas are masses and don't contain the sebaceous guck you expelled previously. Xanthomas are actual growths, and yes, they usually are cholesterol related.

I do think it's a fantastic plan that you'll be taking her to the vet though. :)

5 years on an atrocious diet and no baths are undoubtedly the culprit.
 

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The diet you laid out in your other thread will definitely be good for bringing down her cholesterol, if indeed that is the issue. Very healthy and low fat.

But as you've said, 5 years without a bath could just as easily be the issue as her previous diet. I'm hoping that your vet has some good news for you, and that it's something that will have a simple solution.

I'm also really glad to hear that her gland was not abscessed after all. That's excellent news!

Please keep us updated.
 
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Short cycle of antibiotics, and waiting for the swabs I sent off to get back in a few days.

Hopefully the antibiotics clears it up but it seems like I was right- bird acne! No baths for birds is simply cruel.

They were only on her back and no signs of Xanthomas or other condition. Good news all around, and hoping the full panel of tests from Animal Genetics gives her a clear bill of health.
 
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Test results are back!

What a long few days. I haven't gotten any sleep because I've been terrified she may have PBFD or something else. I had them run a full panel at Animal Genetics and she is so far negative for Polyomavirus, PBFD, Pacheco's, and Chlamydia.

I am so relieved I can't even begin to say. I can finally breathe!
 

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Re: Test results are back!

What a long few days. I haven't gotten any sleep because I've been terrified she may have PBFD or something else. I had them run a full panel at Animal Genetics and she is so far negative for Polyomavirus, PBFD, Pacheco's, and Chlamydia.

I am so relieved I can't even begin to say. I can finally breathe!


Great news !!
 

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Excellent news! I'm so happy for both of you!

Remember to maintain quarantine, though. Some illnesses, like PBFD, only register on tests while they're actively shedding. So it's best to continue QT for now while keeping an eye on her.

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Excellent news! I'm so happy for both of you!

Remember to maintain quarantine, though. Some illnesses, like PBFD, only register on tests while they're actively shedding. So it's best to continue QT for now while keeping an eye on her.

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That's exactly what we're doing. The baby Ekkie comes home Thursday so I'll have birds in every room of the house!
 

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Excellent! I figured you were doing just that, Brittany, given your foster experience. But thought I'd throw it out there anyway, just in case.

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Especially since so many people read the forums and lurk for advice, it better to say it anyway
 

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