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Old 06-19-2019, 02:57 PM
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Re: Obtained a mate for Amazon parrot, now both are aggressive

A little bit of all of the above. I think overall the "parront" was not really banking on having 2 separated parrots, rather was hoping to find a mate for the existing parrot. Perhaps, the idea of more messy areas is a main concern for her as well.

I think she's also concerned out about it but feels like over time they'll adapt somewhat. For better or worse the "parront" has not always been receptive to my suggestions, different people have different opinions on parrot/animal care.

I spend the most time at home and I'm really sensitive about animal things (maybe a little too sensitive) so I think I'm a bit more concerned/stressed about the situation.
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Old 06-19-2019, 03:12 PM
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Re: Obtained a mate for Amazon parrot, now both are aggressive

Where to start? Yes I know it not your fault and trying to figure out a solution, as you took them on after the fact.

Birds have to bond to each other and accept the other as a mate and male usually put his head down and click his beak and female will join if accepted. Then they start to mate as preen each other, feed each other and climb each other. I have a couple U2's that are mated to each other. The problem is you can't force them to accept each other and 9 times out of 10 they don't.

Next thing is even if they bond and mate to each other one could be dominating and aggressive to each other. Reason you have to watch out for this behavior and separate them when noticed, it will not work and could seriously injury each other, or one kills the other mate, not worth the risk, even if they are bonded to each other. It best to separate them in different cages and etc.

Now if they get along with each other fine and no fighting them keep them together. As far as you it way more tricky when dealing with a mated pair and yes one will get defensive over the other. I was kind of lucky as had my female U2 baby for 2 years before Cooper male U2 came around. So she use to going everywhere with me and being the center of attention and once Cooper came into the picture I had to quarantine him for a while, so used the time to my advantage and bonded to him separately without my female U2 knowing. Slowly I introduced them never expecting them to mate, but they did. When I rescue him last owner thought he was a female. Once I saw him trying to mate with my female during play time, I figure he had to be a male, just due to behavior, plus his smaller size, for some reasons male cockatoos tend to be smaller them females and then had him DNA tested which he was indeed a male. It important you always handle the first bird in the house first so jealous won't develop and for a while watch them carefully to ensue no aggression towards each other and excessive dominating Behavior. Slowly adapted them to routine and handle both at the same time now and treat the same.

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Re: Obtained a mate for Amazon parrot, now both are aggressive

Thanks for your comment.

They honestly do really well with each other. I was told they were preening each other on the first day they met and sharing the same bowl. Today I saw them feeding each other, I guess regurgitating food into each other's mouths. So no problem there, at least not as of yet
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Old 06-19-2019, 04:07 PM
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Re: Obtained a mate for Amazon parrot, now both are aggressive

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Thanks for your comment.

They honestly do really well with each other. I was told they were preening each other on the first day they met and sharing the same bowl. Today I saw them feeding each other, I guess regurgitating food into each other's mouths. So no problem there, at least not as of yet
That a good sign. As far as them bonding to you, it will take a while. That to be expected, not unusual. Yes a training stand at a different location to be around you cuts cage aggression, as no longer in cage "safe place". Then you can start training sessions after a while once they get use to you being close around them. Just take it slow and if you see them getting scared back off. Then try to go closer next day, till you can approach them without them getting nervous, or flying off, or trying to attack you. Never stare at them as sure way for them to see you as a predator.

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Re: Obtained a mate for Amazon parrot, now both are aggressive

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If I may ask??...why is the current "parront" unwilling to let them live in separate houses? Not enough room for another house? Or just doesn't understand why it "should" be done? Or just doesn't really "care"?


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I saw what Jim said above and it made me think. I read somewhere that a "suitable cage" for a bird will be something like 3x their wingspan across, 4x wingspan up and I believe 2 deep. (don't hold me to those measurements) if you achieve that you have met the cage size requirements for that specific bird.
Now put 2 birds in that cage and its cramped, not to mention all the toys/stimulation they require! Perhaps you can lend that bit of information to help your cause. They could still live along side one another and communicate just in their OWN cage.
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Re: Obtained a mate for Amazon parrot, now both are aggressive

Wow!
Well, I never even DARED to add another bird to my little dictator's world...
May I just commend you on reaching out, and caring so much, and hanging in there?

I'm glad you're here.
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Re: Obtained a mate for Amazon parrot, now both are aggressive

This whole post my be getting sidetracked.
The 2 birds are together and the OP has no control over that part of the situation.
I think the issue is.
1 how to preserve the good relationship with the male YNA.
2 How to improve the relationship with the new female YNA.
3 How to do both without destroying the relationship between the 2 YNA.

With Patch &Plumas, Plumas was a wild caught bird. I never tried to go beyond teaching him to step up. Putting them together was nothing more than a space saving movie on my part. It was pre-internet and was before I had alot of the information I now have.

I am currently working on putting 2 Mexican red headed Amazons together. I think they are male & female but not sure. Luna (F) was a rescue and it was obvious to me she had had both feathered & human company in the past. She desperately wanted to make friends with my YNA but Bingo would kill her before I could turn around. She is semi tame .

So I was on the lookout for a friend/mate(?) and found a breeder at a bird fair that had the same species. So October last I brought home Merlin. That would be 10 months after acquiring Luna. As of today they are in separate cages but have out of cage time together. They eat together and groom each other but they still lung at each other.

My gut says Merlin is to young and immature to have a relationship but I think it will happen eventually.

What I’m saying in a long winded way is that it takes time to build a relationship. Sometimes years. You have to work at the speed the bird will accept.

And try to get that cage with food doors. Invading there space feeding them will at to misstrust and aggression (in my opinion).

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Re: Obtained a mate for Amazon parrot, now both are aggressive

It's been a couple of days since I've logged in but thank you GaleriaGila. Birdmom and Texsize for your words/advice.

I ended up "mycgivering" the cage they have so that the food and water bowls are now on the swinging doors to the side of the cages (ie I don't have to try to reach inside in order to change their bowls).

In response to BirdMom, they were originally placed side by side in two separate cage but when let out they immediately traverse the distance to be together.

Nicely said, texsize "you have to work at the speed the bird will accept". Patience is key

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