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Old 10-05-2016, 05:24 PM
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Thank you, thank you, Marileen. I knew you'd have a special view point. You and I share a lot and I really think we can help each other find new ways to do old stuff. I think your 'ladder perch attachment' (or whatever you call it!) to your chair is brilliant.
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Old 10-05-2016, 05:35 PM
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Re: Disability: Inability to preen my bird...

Teddscau... again, thanks. When we used to preen, the message was pretty sexual and selfish (that's my guy Quagmire)... he would demand preening, regurgitate a little (I'm so grateful that his "barf" smells like wet crackers... not bad at all) and he would sometimes do his little courting dance back and forth on my leg or the armchair, clicking his beak and head-bobbing... stuff like that.
Something you said caught my attention, though... just letting him be on my shoulder and nuzzling. He has never bitten my face. Just ears and hands. I will definitely give that a try. It didn't occur to me to give up on the knee-preening set-up and go to totally different location!
Noah sounds like a doll!
I hope your worries about Ju can be eased, and soon.
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Old 10-05-2016, 05:37 PM
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Re: Disability: Inability to preen my bird...

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Thank you, thank you, Marileen. I knew you'd have a special view point. You and I share a lot and I really think we can help each other find new ways to do old stuff. I think your 'ladder perch attachment' (or whatever you call it!) to your chair is brilliant.

Harry and Toon preen each other, but sometimes has one of the two a wing that have to be preened anyway.
Then I use a tiny squeeze tweets and a drinking straw.
I do not know how to explain this in the right way......I will try and hope you understand what I mean.
I squeeze the tube with the small tweets broke down and with the beginning or end of the drinking straw I slide it from the wing.
Do you understand a bit what I mean Gail?

Is RBird o.k. with it.... if Kirby does the preening?
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Old 10-05-2016, 05:41 PM
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Marileen, I think I can picture that! Very clever!!!!!!!!! Your guys are lucky to have each other, I'm sure of that.
Oh, noooooooooooooooooo... if the Rival tried to preen the Rbird, the Rbird would try to preen the Rival's eyeballs out of his head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Marileen, I think I can picture that! Very clever!!!!!!!!! Your guys are lucky to have each other, I'm sure of that.
Oh, noooooooooooooooooo... if the Rival tried to preen the Rbird, the Rbird would try to preen the Rival's eyeballs out of his head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I have to laugh ... ... but the way you say this hahahahaha
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Re: Disability: Inability to preen my bird...

Noah's a pretty good guy, but he's been a bit of a butt this past month. He's been having tantrums for some reason. The one day he flew over to my mom and just started biting the heck out of her throat. She'd done nothing to provoke him. He just suddenly became angry and wanted to hurt her. I gave him heck and had him step up, but he flew over again and was just started attacking her on the throat again. He was so out of control that he wouldn't listen to me and attacked me when I tried to get him to step up. I actually had to grab him with my hand and put him back in the cage to cool off. Mom had welts on her throat for two days. He kept trying to pick fights with her until I had her do some play sessions with a plastic baggy (crinkling a plastic bag to make him happy was the only way I could handle him for the first month I had him). He's a parrotlet, so I knew what I was getting into when my mom's coworker gave him to us.

With Noah, our relationship is pretty non-sexual. He mainly sees me as a friend and only regurgitated once for me. He does the wiggle neck dance when he eats sunflower seeds, but he uses it as more of a "happy dance." The more sunflower seeds he eats, the more he does his little dance . I try not to give him too many since he'll probably start regurgitating everywhere out of (non-sexual) excitement.

Maybe if things became less sexual with the two of you, he might start getting along with the Rival? Parrotlets are often very possessive are their mates, but Noah doesn't seem to become jealous and is will fly over and land on complete strangers even though I haven't really worked on socializing him. Maybe it's because he sees me as a friend rather than as a lover? Man, if someone who didn't know anything about parrots read this conversation...

And thanks for your words...something about Ju. Sorry, I start becoming incoherent with my typing when I'm tired.
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Re: Disability: Inability to preen my bird...

Marileen... sometimes the only thing ya *CAN* do is laugh, right??????

Teddscau... I think you're handling Noah like a pro. A great combination of consistency and fun-loving-ness. Yes, I make up words when I want to.

I tried your nuzzling/shoulder suggestion tonight... he was a little cranky about it because he isn't used to it, but I think it's going to be nice once he settles into it. It's not preening, but it is close, and it was very pleasant for me.

I am pretty resigned to the idea that Rbird and Rival are not going to be friends. At least they tolerate each other in a civil manner. By the time Rival came along, Rbird was an adult male and he saw me as his hen; Patagonians mate for life, so I think the bond was pretty well a done deal. I am SURE I could have handled it better over the years, but we're all pretty set in our ways at this point. I'll be happy if Rbird and I can get a compromise or substitute for the preening problem.

Of course I would remark about Ju. We're a community here. I care.
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Re: Disability: Inability to preen my bird...

I don't have any advise, but hugs. That's got to be awful. I'm sorry.
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Re: Disability: Inability to preen my bird...

My mom has FMS, so I'm quite used to shaky, unworking fingers. Catch is she can feel hers... too much actually. Constant, agonizing pain. For no reason. I really hope you and RBird can work this out, we all know how much you care for the little dinosaur.
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Old 10-05-2016, 11:28 PM
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Re: Disability: Inability to preen my bird...

Gail, I am sympathetic to you ; Geri has something similar. What about just going back to preening him like you used to, just make a consiuod effort to do it badly; ie make the motions of doing it but dont even try to pinch off the shafts. Im sure he will miss the actual relief of having the shafts broken open, but this might convey to him that you dont do it well any more. An abstract thought like that is going tough to convey to him. But, I almost certain he also misses the close contact that preening offers, its like giving him scratchies. im not sure if I am explaining myself clearly; we can skype a bit if you think it will help.

But it may be time to give up the concert violinist gig.
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