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Old 10-20-2018, 01:34 PM
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Odd question

So besides my soon to get golden conure. I likely will he buying a white bellied caique.

There are several at the breeder I am in touch with but there are three I have re gularly visited. My favorite would always hang out in me and hate going back in the cage.

Well over time, as he has grown up a bit more (7 months now), he fr he is very fidhety abd anxious once on my freaks out if he sees my hands in his peripherals as he thinks ill be putting him back. Not only that but he os anxious and fidgety when on mt chest or shoulders likely die to anticipating a hand coming ti put him away. That and he keeos squaking when he is on my shoulder (stress from all this).

But i love his playfulness more than the others. At such a young age, after having learned such an unhealthy bejavior, is there rooml for him to grow out of it
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Re: Odd question

Are they both the only birds you have had?
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Old 10-20-2018, 03:22 PM
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Re: Odd question

Just a note; caiques are extremely unlikely to get alone peacefully with non-caiques.


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Re: Odd question

I've heard that, Sage!

I wonder if you'd consider just starting out with the Golden? I may have mentioned that they're my 'dream bird', or were, before the Rb took over. I could spend all day staring at one!

Two birds are almost always geometrically more complicated than one!
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Re: Odd question

I would not juggle 2 new birds at the same time.

Mine dribbled in about a year apart, and even that was a bit soon.
It takes time to 'tune in' to each others bodylanguage, rhythms, preferences etc. etc. even with same-species birds this is quite a challenge!

Not saying you are headed for disaster - but you are setting yourself up for some steep learningcurves
Keep in mind what Silversage said, it really is *no* fun when your birds do not get along.
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Re: Odd question

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Are they both the only birds you have had?
I'm curious... Are you experienced with having multiple birds? particularly of different species? Have you ever had either a conure or a caique before?

Having multiple birds demands alot of time, patience and money. You must be prepared for problems. Conures and caiques each tend to be very demanding, extremely active and very emotional birds. They seldom take to birds outside their species that they weren't raised with. My conures TOLERATE the other birds at best. My Pionus hates them all including the conures.

IF you go through with your plans, prepare for separate cages and separate EVERYTHING.
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Re: Odd question

If I recall, you've never had any birds as pets before, have you?

I will second not bringing home any other bird until you get that Golden Conure home and have had him and only him for at least a year, if not longer. There are many, many reasons why we are telling you this for your own good, but the main one is that you need to build a bond with the Golden Conure first, get him settled-in and used to your home, your routine, and just "you" in-general, and most-importantly you need to see what type of personality this Golden Conure is going to have, because it's not going to be anything like the way he's acting now in that pet shop or at the breeder or wherever you're getting him from...And I hate to bring this up, but he may very well have some neurological/psychological/behavioral issues going on due to his very late-weaning and other problems...But even if these issues didn't exist, you still need to form a relationship in your home with the first bird before you even think about bringing home a second bird.

Having more than one bird, particularly of different species, can be challenging at best, and you should NEVER bring two different young parrots of two different species home together or close to the same time, unless they were raised together. I put a good year and a half to two years between bringing any of mine home, simply because I wanted to bond with each one, I wanted to be their "flock" and their "person", and I didn't want any issues with that happening or interference with it happening, such as the two young birds bonding with each other and not me, OR more than likely what will happen with that combination that you're talking about bringing home is that they will not get along with each other AT ALL, and then during the time when you need to be spending as much time as possible with them to form a strong bond with them, instead your time will have to be equally split between two young, baby/juvenile birds that most likely will not be able to be out of their cages together at all. So instead of forming a close, solid relationship and bond with the Golden Conure first, before bringing in another young bird, you're not going to have the time to do so as you'll be split between the two, so you'll not ever form any close bond with either of them...

The other huge issue you're going to have is the issues with territoriality, with two new birds fighting to be dominant over their new home AND their new person, to the point that you're likely to end-up with two birds that can't be anywhere near each other, especially when puberty hits. As already mentioned, Caiques are not at all easy parrots to have as pets by themselves, let alone at the same time you are also bringing home a baby Conure...Caiques are very unique parrots with behaviors and personalities that are like no other parrot species, and they do not at all like to "share" with any non-Caiques at all. So again, you're going to end-up with two young, baby birds in their new home at the same time, fighting over the house, and fighting over you, and this is a recipe for disaster...

***There will be plenty of hand-raised, baby Caiques for you to bring home in the future. As a person who has never owned any larger species of parrot, or any parrot for that matter, not long-term anyway, please, you need to put your wants to the side, and start-out this very adult relationship and responsibility that you are taking-on by doing what is going to be best for that baby Golden Conure that you have been dealing with forever. Bring him home to his new house, and make yourself and your time ALL HIS, which is what he needs during his first year with you, and what you need if you want to be closely bonded with him...This can't be about what you want, it needs to be you doing what is best for the baby bird you have already committed yourself to. If you bring home two baby parrots at the same time, one being a Caique, you're going to find yourself in a situation where you can't spend nearly enough time with either bird, you're not going to form any type of close bond with either bird, and you're going to have two birds that can't even be in the same room together because they are so territorial about you and the home that they are extremely aggressive...Not only with each other, but also with you!!!

What I'm saying is you are jeopardizing your relationship with either bird by doing what you are thinking of doing.
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Re: Odd question

Quote: Originally Posted by SilverSage View Post
Just a note; caiques are extremely unlikely to get alone peacefully with non-caiques.


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Dittoing this. We have a black capped Caique at the shop and he bullies just about all the bird, one he will actually launch himself at if he so much as sees her even if they're on opposite sides of the room. He gets along with the jardine that we also have but that's pretty much the only bird he doesn't bully.
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Re: Odd question

Yeah as others have advised...please just get one bird 1st and keep them for at least a year before getting a 2nd bird. These little winged friends are A LOT of work. I know you're probably like "pffft you guys are babies, birds are easy...I can have 2 new birds at once.." but no seriously....I have 3 conures of various breeds and I got them each a year apart because of this reason. And let me tell you that 3 conures (if you actually give them the time and attention they deserve and need) are so so so much work. None of them are bonded to any other bird which means they all believe me to be their mate. I didn't really plan it that way it just kind of happened. So I have 3 birds who couldn't give a crap about each other (apart from them all being in a flock and so will call each other from time to time) and are all looking to me to spend time with them and entertain them. Luckily i don't work so I can devote my time to them. Now on the other spectrum of things you can get the 2 birds at around the same time and if not kept apart or regulated in any way will probably choose each other as their mate and it doesn't matter which sex they are either. Then you are left with 2 birds who don't really care about you that much and are devoted to each other and depending on how much time you have for them you could end up not even being able to handle them. I believe one of the reasons my 3 birds are choosing me as the mate is because I got one and spent a year with him and he bonded to me...then I got the 2nd one and the 1st one was bonded to me so the 2nd one bonded to me also because the 1st one was not at all interested in bonding to them...same with 3rd bird.
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Re: Odd question

I have multiple species in a large birdroom. Assuming you don't follow the given advice, be prepared now. You're gonna need to for sure get an air purifier. In my birdroom (They're not all in that room.) There are 5 bags of pellets. I wasn't kidding when I said it wouldn't be cheap! Not only do I get to pay for them, I get to be the supervisor. They're certainly not all out at the same time and there are still bird wars.

Regarding my conures, I have 3 different sizes. 2 have been together since chicks. They each have a separate cage though. They ALLOW the older bird to hang with them since she acts as mama bird and shows no favoritism. She follows after the other two. The only reason for me is the I'm the servant and master treat-giver.
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