I still don't understand what happened

kyva

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On April 2nd, my husband and I woke to find our sweet cockatiel of over 10 years had passed away.

The events leading up to his passing didn't seem to warrant such a severe result.

On March 19th, I noticed he was fluffed up a bit more than usual, and when we took him out, his poo was more like pea soup and that he had a very slight limp with his left foot.

He was still eating, drinking, had clear eyes and nose, so I kept an eye on him, changed the paper in his cage and checked his droppings which got considerably more normal as the night went on.

The next day, he was still limping, but a little more feisty. We had a feeling he'd hurt a toe, so I removed the dangling toy he liked to wrap his foot around, watched him again and covered him for the night with a heat lamp. We didn't have an aquarium, otherwise I would've placed him in there.

The next morning, he insisted on climbing all over his cage, even going upside down. I was worried about his foot since the limp was still there, so I removed all the perches, weaved cardboard between the bars to make a low ceiling and made him comfortable on the bed of his cage (the grated part, not actually on his feces) along with his water dish, another dish with pellets and a third with seed as a treat.

Later that day, I heard something rattling and looked back to find him chewing through the ceiling I'd made for him.

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He was squeezing through a hole he'd made, so I gently reached in for him, asked him to step up, changed out the cardboard and this time, I placed him on top along with his bowls.

Hubby and I watched after him closely, and as the days went on (over the span of about a week), he was moving around more and the limp had mostly disappeared. His eating, drinking and droppings were still normal.

I kept the lamp on him and the cage stayed as it was because I wanted him to heal more before he could climb all over the bars again. Good thing we had a lot of cardboard to spare. It made it easy for us to change his makeshift floor/platform.

That night, before bed, he had a night fright. I checked on him and everything seemed fine, so I gave him kisses, covered him and we all went to bed.

The next morning, he was limping around. Hard. It was very noticeable. The vet hadn't opened yet, but he was still able to eat and drink for me.

I called the vet once I was able and got an appointment later in the afternoon (first open slot) and I said it was an emergency. Between that call and the visit, Sweetpea avoided standing on his left foot and, by early afternoon, he was resting on his breastbone, using neither foot at all.

I called my hubby at work, told him and asked him to go to the vet with me. We went in and the vet did a full exam.

At the time of his visit, Sweetpea weighed 79 grams, which the vet said was good. She checked all of his organs, feeling them as well as his air sacs, but she didn't find anything out of place. She then moved to his left leg and foot, feeling around where it met his belly all the way down to his toes.

She said nothing seemed fractured either. She never took x-rays as she said he likely didn't need them. He was very well behaved and didn't cry a single time when she was handling him.

Even though his foot wasn't swollen, she gave him an injection of metacam in his chest. She told me to keep a lamp on him and to call if anything changed.

So, we got him in his carrier, took him home and kept an eye on him. He ate, drank and was a little less interested in us, but I figured it was the stress from his visit, so we mostly left him alone.

I'm a light sleeper. Whenever he had a fright, I always woke up, turned on the light and uncovered his cage to check on him until he was safely perched and comfortable again.

That night, I didn't hear anything out of the norm.

When I uncovered his cage the next morning, I found him splayed under his heat lamp with his wings open, next to his water dish.

I have no idea what happened. Aside from his limp, he didn't show signs of anything else. When I spoke to the vet, she said it's possible he has a seizure, stroke or it could've been from shock as he was mostly fine during his visit the night before.

She offered to do a necropsy, but I was too upset to take him back, so we buried him under a bunch of pines nearby.

I keep wondering if I waited too long to go to the vet, or if I should've skipped the vet. maybe taking him in was too much. Maybe when she examined him, something broke loose from his foot.

I don't know, but I realize I'd have just as many questions if I hadn't taken him in. I just wish I could explain it. We did everything we could, and with the peace of mind from our vet visit, I was sure he'd bounce back in a week.

It didn't hit me until last week that he's really gone, and with the house being so quiet, I can't stand not having him here.
 
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Sheryl

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Oh my dear, I'm so sorry for your loss. I know what emptiness you feel losing such a sweet little companion after having him for so long. Cry it out. Only that and time will get you through until you see him again over Rainbow Bridge. Big hug. I hope you find comfort knowing you have like-minded friends thinking of you. Sincerely.
 

Kiwibird

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I am so very sorry for your sudden loss of your feathered baby:( At least he passed knowing he was loved and had had a happy, healthy life right up until the end. Sometimes with such little creatures, it can be hard to tell how ill they are or what they are sick with. You did the right thing taking him to the vet, even if they weren't able to help.

You will never know the real reason without a necropsy, but even having one done wouldn't have brought him back anyways. At least he was given a nice burial in a pretty spot. The whole situation with your tiel sounds very similar to what happened with our (very old) bearded dragon. We woke up on a Monday, and one of her back feet was limp. Took her to the vet, and they could find nothing wrong. By the weekend both back feet were limp and she was dragging herself around. Made an emergency appointment on Saturday, and again, they couldn't find a reason (i.e. she didn't have broken bones). By the next Monday, she was obviously very ill and I took the day off work and demanded the vet find out what was wrong. She had a tumor on her spine that was paralyzing her, and she died within days. There was nothing that could have been done no matter how early we caught it. Sometimes these things happen, and it's very painful to loose a faithful companion. Tiffany died over 6 years ago, and I still miss her- she was my buddy for a long time and t was heartbreaking to watch her go from so healthy to suffering to not with us anymore so quickly. Just know your little baby is flying free now and that you gave him a good life:)
 
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kyva

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Thank you so much, Kiwi.

I'm so sorry to hear of your beardie. We adopted one from and owner who couldn't care for him anymore. He was wonderful and even got along with some of our leopard geckos at the time.

I think he smaller the animal is, the harder it gets.
 

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I am terribly sorry for your loss. Having lost a bird myself, I know how horrible you are feeling, and I understand.
 

Taw5106

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Virtual hugs. I lost my teil Sam in2005. Such a smart girl. You did a fantastic job staying on top and being there for her. Please don't beat yourself up or try to apply shoulda, woulda, coulda's. You did a great job taking her to get answers. It sounds like her issue wasn't common or a known issue. You did your best being there for her and taking her to the Vet. More hugs.
 

veimar

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Oh I'm so, so sorry for your loss… Even knowing the reason would not bring you feathered baby back. Oh, it just broke my heart to read your story. I'm not any bird expert, but I was wondering if it could be an allergic reaction to metacam… Some animals and birds have allergic reaction to it although seldom. It's just a thought, don't take it too seriously… Sending you a virtual hug!
 

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I'm so sorry to hear this. Take care as your heart heals. I've been through this as a lot of us here have, so you have support with those who know how it feels.
 

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So sorry to hear about your loss but for you to know anything that your baby have suffered from, a necropsy would be your only answer. I'm surprised that they didn't try to do any sort of testing to see if anything was wrong with him. There was a vet years ago up in Sioux Falls, SD. that I went to, they did the test right on the spot. I couldn't wait for the test results in days as some testing do require as they sent them off to facilities to test. I was happy that lady vet was very knowledgeable and checked it right on the spot. Prescribed meds and it cured my babies.
 

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I agree with Mike, the necropsy is your only method of discovery. My conure passed and I was upset enough to not want to do it. I had actually buried him in the front yard, but a day later I changed my mind. I dug him up and took him in. My current vet says that the ground acts as an insulator and for a few days anyway the body can actually be preserved enough for the testing.

Seeing as this isn't likely to resolve itself in your mind, it might be worth having it done. I know it's hard to do, but closure will give your mind rest for years to come. It will also benefit any future birds you may decide to own. Did you feed him wrong? Was it a respiratory illness? Was it a stroke? An unwitnessed injury? Parasites? Teflon? Birds hide thier sicknesses well. Too well. And as such, the smallest clues can tell us the most about thier health.

Oh, and for the record, the fluffed up feathers, and especially the limp can be huge red flags. The night my conure George died he came out of his sleeping tent limping.
 
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kyva

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Fortunately, this house is teflon and unsafe sprays free. Hubby and I are the only two who live here.

Sweetpea was on pellets and had been on them for close to a decade. I had been offering him seed more often just to make sure he was eating enough and as a small treat.

He's been buried now for 3 weeks, so I'm sure it's a little too late for me to dig him up and take him in. I did think about it a day or two after doing so, but I can't stand to think on it.

The vet I've gone to is the only avian vet I know of in our area. I've dealt with her for years. She has seen me with various birds including a parrotlet I lost suddenly and (after the necropsy) had no signs of illness at all.

I'll check back later.
 

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So sorry for the loss of your family member. The most difficult thing about death is not knowing why? So many what ifs to deal with. Birds limp for many reasons. Neoplasia, nerve damage, muscle strain, slipped tendon, stroke, cardiac disease, inflamed airsac. Unfortunately with smaller birds testing for answers can cause more stress to an already sick body, and many veterinarians will choose the less aggressive treatment option. Take comfort in the fact you loved your bird, did everything you could, and gave him the very best.
 

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I am so so sorry for your loss. I lost my green cheek conure earlier this month and have just as many questions surrounding the situation, so I know how awful it feels. You did the right thing in taking him to the vet. It sounds like you did everything you could to help him. I hope things get better soon. Stay strong and please don't blame yourself. *hugs*
 

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I am so sorry for your loss of Sweet Pea:(
The what ifs are so hard when we lose a beloved member of the family. It is obvious how much Sweet Pea was loved, and well taken care of...please do not blame yourself.
My heart goes out to you.
 
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kyva

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Thank you all so very much. I'm sorry I didn't comment earlier. My missing Sweetpea hit real hard this weekend while we were out just checking possible birds in the area (mostly budgies).

Hubby thinks I'm a bit hand shy right now as I completely avoided looking at the tiels. He told me to please give them a chance this weekend when we go out looking again.

It's just hard. I mean, I love cockatiels, but I don't want it to feel like a 'replacement.'
 

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