Gender of Budgies? (Shop sold me supposedly Male and Female)

Prim · May 12, 2018

Hi Guys.
It's me again.
Just wondering if anyone can confirm if my budgies are both genders... or the same...

They are 3 months old.. and I did ask the shop owner for a male and female.. But strongly suspect both are male..

Attached are pictures for reference...

Thanks guys..

EllenD · May 12, 2018

At 3 months old there is no way to tell their genders at all. They are definitely very young, as shown by the black bars on their foreheads all the way down to their eyes, so the shop owner was honest with you about that. However, with both of them having pink ceres like they do, they both are too young to tell their gender...

At first glance many people may call them both female, but what is going to happen in the next couple of months is that their ceres are going to change colors, or not. If they stay light pink then they are both female, or if they turn white, light tan, or a very, very light blue with a white ring around their nostrils then they are also female. Females cause the most confusion. If their ceres turn darker blue or purple, they are males.

So the shop owner would have had absolutely no way to give you a particular sex if they were all only 3 months old, though it seems he didn't know that.

Keep in mind too that if you get a tricky budgie, there are exceptions to the colors I listed above, so I suggest you Google "Budgie sexing" and all of this information is easily found...

PetoftheDay · May 12, 2018

Ellen got it right - too young to tell.

What are their names, anyway? Congratulations on the new family members!

Prim · May 13, 2018

Wow. Thanks for the detailed info!

Will just love them whatever gender they are.

And their names are :orange:

Ralphie and :blue2:

Sophie

EllenD said:
At 3 months old there is no way to tell their genders at all. They are definitely very young, as shown by the black bars on their foreheads all the way down to their eyes, so the shop owner was honest with you about that. However, with both of them having pink ceres like they do, they both are too young to tell their gender...

At first glance many people may call them both female, but what is going to happen in the next couple of months is that their ceres are going to change colors, or not. If they stay light pink then they are both female, or if they turn white, light tan, or a very, very light blue with a white ring around their nostrils then they are also female. Females cause the most confusion. If their ceres turn darker blue or purple, they are males.

So the shop owner would have had absolutely no way to give you a particular sex if they were all only 3 months old, though it seems he didn't know that.

Keep in mind too that if you get a tricky budgie, there are exceptions to the colors I listed above, so I suggest you Google "Budgie sexing" and all of this information is easily found...

reeb · May 13, 2018

Yeah it is very difficult to tell when they are so young. I have often misgendered budgies, and I've had a lot of experience haha. Pink ceres can really mean anything at this age in terms of gender.

MonicaMc · May 15, 2018

Both budgies are males. I'd say keep them! Better to have two males than a rowdy female and male!

Or is there a specific reason you wanted a female?

Prim · May 15, 2018

Thanks Guys... Will await a few more months to really see their "true colours" lol.

Oh. Wanted a male and female so at least they'll be a happy family...

BirdGeeks · May 15, 2018

Very cute babies!

MonicaMc · May 15, 2018

Two males usually get along much better than anything that involves a female....

Unless you meant you were planning on breeding them?

terepuga · May 17, 2018

Hi everyone I’m new to this platform so I don’t know were to post my question, can anyone tell me what the gender of my budgie is? I have another one that I know for sure is a female because she’s been laying eggs after mating with this one on the picture (Coco) so I’ve been thinking is a male but I’m not sure, can someone tell me the gender please, thank you

MonicaMc · May 17, 2018

terepuga said:
Hi everyone I’m new to this platform so I don’t know were to post my question, can anyone tell me what the gender of my budgie is? I have another one that I know for sure is a female because she’s been laying eggs after mating with this one on the picture (Coco) so I’ve been thinking is a male but I’m not sure, can someone tell me the gender please, thank you

Looks to be a young male, either clear dominant pied or double factor spangle. (probably spangle)

It's usually best to create your own topic/thread so as to not derail another person's thread and get answers geared towards your questions - instead of the OP's.

terepuga · May 17, 2018

Thank you so much for the info Monica, I really appreciate it &#55357;&#56842;

alina9898 · May 19, 2018

I agree, I think they're too young to tell. But I just wanted to say that they are SO CUTE.

Mdjandt · May 19, 2018

terepuga said:
Hi everyone I’m new to this platform so I don’t know were to post my question, can anyone tell me what the gender of my budgie is? I have another one that I know for sure is a female because she’s been laying eggs after mating with this one on the picture (Coco) so I’ve been thinking is a male but I’m not sure, can someone tell me the gender please, thank you

We will need a better picture of the front of the cere, nostril area. It appears to have white around it which suggests female but need a better picture to be sure.

EllenD · May 20, 2018

MonicaMc said:
Two males usually get along much better than anything that involves a female....

Unless you meant you were planning on breeding them?

They are far too young to say they are males yet, as their ceres wouldn't start to change from the current pink color for at least another month. I wouldn't be telling the OP that they are both males right now, as if they are not and he puts them together, this could create an unwanted breeding situation at far too young an age. Just my opinion as a Budgie breeder and owner of over 30 years. Most all Budgie ceres are exactly the color that the OP's are (there are rare exceptions based on the type of mutation, but not with the OP's birds) until they approach 4-6 months old, and I've actually seen a change at over 6 months old on a juvenile I was sure was a male that turned-out to be a female.

Just my 2 cents, I would not at all, in any way assume the sex of either of these budgies as being male right now, it's too soon and they are too young.

MonicaMc · May 20, 2018

EllenD said:
They are far too young to say they are males yet, as their ceres wouldn't start to change from the current pink color for at least another month. I wouldn't be telling the OP that they are both males right now, as if they are not and he puts them together, this could create an unwanted breeding situation at far too young an age. Just my opinion as a Budgie breeder and owner of over 30 years. Most all Budgie ceres are exactly the color that the OP's are (there are rare exceptions based on the type of mutation, but not with the OP's birds) until they approach 4-6 months old, and I've actually seen a change at over 6 months old on a juvenile I was sure was a male that turned-out to be a female.

Just my 2 cents, I would not at all, in any way assume the sex of either of these budgies as being male right now, it's too soon and they are too young.

Well, the OP wants a male and female so they can be a happy family... so if they are in fact male and female, that would make the OP happy!

I've seen females around the same age with white ceres already, so I'm sticking to the idea that both are males unless there's any indication to show otherwise.

gillian61 · May 21, 2018

Both definatley males.

Mdjandt · May 21, 2018

Yes. Both males. And you can tell almost immediately that a budgie is a boy or girl because of the white rings around the females. With the better pictures (might have missed the second) they are both clearly males. Now with that being said, sometimes a male will appear as a female but the cere will turn blue. That’s rare.

Also, a BTW, if OP were to breed these two, if they were a male and female, color mutations would be green unless the green bird is split to blue. I wouldn’t suggest buying birds without knowing parentage because these two may be closely related! That would not be good. Luckily they both appear to be male, but some thought needs to be put into these matters instead of putting two birds together to “make a family.”

gillian61 · May 23, 2018

i would say male

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