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Old 07-06-2007, 09:07 AM
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Over the last few weeks Kito has become a real sod, a brat in fact. He will fly over to us and bite, flying off straight away. To put him in has become a work of art (Bucc has decided he will follow Kito's lead on this one) we will have our night time cuddles, and just before putting him in off he goes, He has decided he doesn't want to go in and thats it, he's flying off everytime you get near him. When I call him to me he will ignore me completley. It gets at the stage when everyone, fids and humans are so worked up and stressed out. He has taken it upon himself to start flying AT people and then spiking them with his feet, If he isn't quite quick enough to fly off and he lands on you watch out he will then turn and bite. He has also decided he is going to poop wherever he wants too.

My decision is to have them clipped and then start on the re-training. Bucc has leant some good things from Kito, but he is also learning some really not so good things. I shall be speaking to my vet on Monday and hopefully will be able to get them in sometime during the week, when Andi gets back from his trip. He's taking Jemma for her holiday to stay with her Great Grandmother.

Bucc would be easy to re-train if Kito was in all the time, but as thats not gonna happen then they both get the clip. I'm not really looking forward to this as I love having my birds fully flighted, but I also want the well behaved boys back that I had until a little while ago. Its going to take a lot of hard work on my part, just to remember to take them to go potty, rather than them going to their usual spots (java Tree) when they want to go.
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Re: Have come to a decision.

Peta, it's sad that you have to do something you don't really want to do, but you have already mentioned all the beneits that you will get by clipping them.

Kito really makes me laugh when I read your posts but I think Bucc is my favourite.

I'm sure you will do great job with them once more, and you will have more time now that Jemma will go on holidays.
Tell us how you get on..
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Thanks pheobus, I really don't want to do this, but I know for my sanity and Kito's neck it has to be done.

Yeah kito makes me laugh, right before I want to strangle the little *******

I put Kito away a few mins ago, and left Bucc out, what a difference that was, He kept sitting here with me looking at all your fids saying I like that one, Cricket was getting lots of wolf whistles, then he stated asking "wheres ito (he hasn't quite got Kito) he's a good boy noooooooooooooooo" Quick translation is he's been naughty.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:08 AM
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I love that guy!

What a goodhearted bird he is!

Would Kito look for him too if he was out alone or he just wouldn't care?
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If ever Bucc has to have a time out (inside the cage) then Kito hates it, and goes and lets him out, he's worked out that he can open the top hatch of the cage. Bucc taught him to do that, I have to hide the latch up.

If he can't let him out then he sits by the cage all the time, trying to preen him through the bars.
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I'm sorry Kito I thought like that for you!
You are a good and loving bird too..

A little young maybe but definetely good..
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A little young maybe but definetely good..
Yeah he's really good at doing everything he knows he shouldn't .
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I'm sorry Kito I thought like that for you!
You are a good and loving bird too..

A little young maybe but definetely good..
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Sorry I posted the same once more...
As you have all noticed I am very good at computers..
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Re: Have come to a decision.

Aww, dog-gone-it Peta, your decision is not without angst. (And, much thought!). I love how beautiful Moj and Cecil are with free flighted wings; graceful looking. But, too, I know the delimma I have with baby Timothy and his expert-Houdini escapism mannerisms ... I hated to clip little Timmy, but for training, trust and bonding it was agreed upon with my vet that it was really the only viable option ........... with that said, I still did it very hesitantly (kicking and screaming--no, I'm just joking ), but I still didn't like being there watching little Timothy's beautiful flights being sheared one by one.

I think for the reasons you've put forth, that your decision is very well thought out and will result in the behavior changes you are looking toward accomplishing.

But, again, darn, I wish we could do it leaving their beautiful flights in tact ... I know you do too, (((Peta))).

Master Kito, you naughty little boy ... don't you give your mama such heartache!
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