Winter plucking

ZoeS

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I have two conures - a green cheek and a rose crown. They are in the same cage together and their cage is quite large. They eat Harrison pellets mostly, along with lots of other things that we are eating. They are out of the cage for several hours a day, more on weekends. I've had both since they were under a year, and they are 2-3 years old now.

The rose crown conure started plucking his flight feathers last winter. I think he may also have been chewing on the green cheek's tail feathers although that might have been the green cheek. As a result, he spends most of the winter unable to fly and most of spring growing back his flight feathers and most of summer learning how to fly again.

Last winter, when I first realized he was plucking and not moulting, I added a full spectrum light over their cage as well as a cool air humidifier. This seemed to stop the problem, although in retrospect it may have been far along in the season that he stopped on his own.

I also sprayed him down last winter but he really hated it, so I stopped. They don't have real baths that often (they don't seem all that interested). They do shower with my husband every morning but they don't really get wet or anything.

He has started up again this year. I just put the humidifier back and will be replacing the light (I used it all summer long out of habit).

I can't think of anything else to do to curb this behaviour. The only other change is just the overall darkness (the light helps with this, but when it's dark out, it's darker in general, even if I leave the light on in the room) and the cold. I keep the house at 67-69F but in the room they are in, at night, it's probably 65-66F which I thought was fine if they were given time to adapt. They also have a little snuggly thing that they snuggle up in at night together.

Is there anything else I can do? The green cheek conure can't fly anyway but poor Toby the rose crown can't figure out why he keeps falling to the ground. Poor boy.
 
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My green cheek did this last year but we thought it was because we left for a week. This year he did it again just the other week. We thought he seemed itchy so I got a humidifier for my room where the cage is located and have been giving him daily baths and spraying him with aloe spray. So far he has stopped plucking and doesn't seem to be preening as much as he was before.

I think, at least for mine, it is caused by how dry the air gets inside in winter. With the heater and windows sealed shut the air just gets dry and stale. I know I get itchy skin in winter and have made myself bleed scratching at my skin. I just figured this was the equivalent for him.
 
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My green cheek did this last year but we thought it was because we left for a week. This year he did it again just the other week. We thought he seemed itchy so I got a humidifier for my room where the cage is located and have been giving him daily baths and spraying him with aloe spray. So far he has stopped plucking and doesn't seem to be preening as much as he was before.

I think, at least for mine, it is caused by how dry the air gets inside in winter. With the heater and windows sealed shut the air just gets dry and stale. I know I get itchy skin in winter and have made myself bleed scratching at my skin. I just figured this was the equivalent for him.

I thought it must be this, too, but if that were the case I would expect the humidifier to work. Or maybe I started too late... Do you use a cool air or hot air humidifier? What aloe spray do you use? Can I just mix aloe goo with water? However - isn't aloe slightly toxic?

Does your bird enjoy being sprayed? Toby will run/fly away from it. Maybe he would tolerate it in the shower?
 

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We use AviVera. It is from the AviTec line of products for birds. We bought ours from birdparadise or mybirdstore.com. Most human aloe sprays have alcohol in them so that probably would be a bit toxic for parrots. I am not sure about the aloe goo but I'm guessing it probably has alcohol or something.

The one who plucks hates baths and if there is any standing water he will actually panic and seize up. I have been using a small plastic perch stand and placing it in the sink so I can spray him without making a huge mess. He still glares at me but doesn't seem overly concerned or upset.

 

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Oh sorry I use a cool air humidifier.
 
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Thanks! Haha, they are so cute! Toby would run away from the spraying for sure, but maybe that's preferable to the plucking. I don't think aloe goo (right out of the plant) contains alcohol, but I know I did read something about toxicity. I think it is very mild because it doesn't seem to even be confirmed that it is mildly toxic. I will post about it and see if anyone makes their own aloe spray - I could easily do that. My MIL gave me an aloe plant last year when I tripped and stopped my fall by putting my hand on the wood stove. Ouch.
 

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Haha I thought aloe goo was something you buy which is why I figured it had something toxic in it. I would think right out of the plant is fine but I would check with others to make sure. Ouch that must have hurt. I still have a scar from trying to take cookies from the oven when I was little...

My bottle of the aloe spray says it is made with filtered water, 100% organic Aloe Vera extract, and Geogard (which is apparently some kind of natural preservative).
 
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It hurt a lot but didn't leave a scar or anything. Apparently you can get a 2nd degree burn without it actually breaking the skin! It was ok - I just had to spend a day carrying around once of those frozen beer mugs full of cold water and ice so I could soak my fingers.

Yeah I don't know about the aloe - some people straight up feed aloe to their birds so how toxic can it be?
 

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If you have live aloe, wash and cut the leaves, chop and put in blender, cover with just a little warm water and blend for a few mins. It comes out super foamy. Pour into a strainer and strain into a jar. It may take several hours for it to finally strain. It should looks very green, thick and viscous. Keep it sealed in the fridge and add a shot to either the bathwater (safe to drink) or a spray bottle of water. Toss the water in the bottle after use and make it fresh each time. It really helps and makes a difference. If you hold him and spray with the nozzle right up against the body he might accept it more. If you have them bathe every day at the same time they come to accept it as routine, then come to love it. But daily baths in the winter help a lot. :)
I love that pic btw!
 
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If you have live aloe, wash and cut the leaves, chop and put in blender, cover with just a little warm water and blend for a few mins. It comes out super foamy. Pour into a strainer and strain into a jar. It may take several hours for it to finally strain. It should looks very green, thick and viscous. Keep it sealed in the fridge and add a shot to either the bathwater (safe to drink) or a spray bottle of water. Toss the water in the bottle after use and make it fresh each time. It really helps and makes a difference. If you hold him and spray with the nozzle right up against the body he might accept it more. If you have them bathe every day at the same time they come to accept it as routine, then come to love it. But daily baths in the winter help a lot. :)
I love that pic btw!

Thank you, I will try that! Toby's not really a bird I can hold - I got him as a friend for Libby and we never really bonded. He loves hanging out on my shoulder and giving me kisses but I have never been able to manipulate him against his wishes. Still - I will find a way! I will start by trying in different scenarios (like in the shower in the morning - maybe my husband can spray himself first, then try the birds) and see if he accepts one. I am just glad to have a plan of action! :)
 

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