Norrism80
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We have a pair of budgies we got from a woman who seemed loving and disappointed to have to let them go on the surface but we discovered was very frustrated with them to the point of posting frightening things on Facebook, So we decided not to take the ample consideration time we usually would and welcome them. She couldn't drop them off fast enough.
We quickly became enamored with them and their noises and habits with each other, but have been having a very hard time getting them to accept us. They're comfortable in the home they fly around when we let them out but they won't let us touch them or really get closer than a foot or two, the female (euridice) being the more tentative of the two. Orpheus (the male) is much more confident and explorative, tho also not willing to give us a chance to build trust or comfort. He likes flying circles and real close to our heads while we're sitting on the couch And he seems to be talking to us directly often he also makes sure we keep our distance. I don't know the woman who had them before actually treated them, only frustrated posts on Facebook which i find hard to believe didn't translate to behavior in some way and i figure that has something to do with the fact they seem to have no interest in becoming tame to us and we don't have the heart to separate them permanently, given their undying love for each other, and don't want to stress them to much with the sheet out shirt to capture them unless necessary. Today it became necessary. He while being to explorative man bird he is landed on our sons mouse cage. The mouse,always curious as to what's against the cage and why it isn't IN the cage. Nipped his toenail. It bled for a while, wouldn't have seemed like alot but i know they don't have a lot to begin with. So i caught him with a sheet, stressful for him and her watching, and less importantly me to because i don't want to a cause such stress but i digress. Once in the sheet, using my super calm soft guy voice and trying to expose only the foot and him as gently as possible while keeping him mostly immobile, i found his toenail nipped mostly off but still hanging. The bleeding was such that i had to watch for awhile to see if it continued. With a wiggly bird and a sheet that absorbed anything produces evelry time he got wiggly i was able to watch long enough to see it basically gradually wet around the wound, i used flour as a haptic which worked pretty quickly. Now to my point of concern i have him in a make shift segregation cage as we don't have a small cage yet. I'm waiting for a replacement debit card and have very little funds until it arrives (a day or two) unless i can get my bank to let me withdraw money without any of my cards in my lost wallet which I'm trying to accomplish tomorrow when the banks open. Our regular clinic has an avian vet that should be in during the week and i can take him when she's in and i can access my account. The bleeding is stopped, but the tip of his toenail is still attached. They both seem traumatized. Neither is making much noise, and when they call out for the other, for since reason the other doesn't answer. When he gets agitated and started trying to jump out hitting the top i reach my hand in and am seemingly able to calm him, he spent the past hour sitting on my hand in the enclosure or walked up my arm a little, and it seemed to be comforting to him, he only left his perch on my arm when i moved him off so i could get up for a minute and he seemed agitated again for a minute after i removed my extremity from his vicinity. This is by far the most direct interaction that's been possible since they got here, but I'm concerned about their separation, but also his nail getting disturbed, restarting the bleeding. I thought them being next to each other so they could chatter would help the separation but it doesn't seem to be since they don't seem to be communicating. Any advice would be appreciated, should i let him in the big cage so have each other, or shouldi keep him in this small enclosure (a Rubbermaid drawer with a grate from a box fan on top, with seed and water and the sheet i used to capture and wrap him earlier. They always chatter and chirp and whistle, even while asleep, always next to each other one or other of their perches. The silence is deafening, and heartbreaking, and if she could have a look on face i swear she looks distraught. Any advice is welcome.
We quickly became enamored with them and their noises and habits with each other, but have been having a very hard time getting them to accept us. They're comfortable in the home they fly around when we let them out but they won't let us touch them or really get closer than a foot or two, the female (euridice) being the more tentative of the two. Orpheus (the male) is much more confident and explorative, tho also not willing to give us a chance to build trust or comfort. He likes flying circles and real close to our heads while we're sitting on the couch And he seems to be talking to us directly often he also makes sure we keep our distance. I don't know the woman who had them before actually treated them, only frustrated posts on Facebook which i find hard to believe didn't translate to behavior in some way and i figure that has something to do with the fact they seem to have no interest in becoming tame to us and we don't have the heart to separate them permanently, given their undying love for each other, and don't want to stress them to much with the sheet out shirt to capture them unless necessary. Today it became necessary. He while being to explorative man bird he is landed on our sons mouse cage. The mouse,always curious as to what's against the cage and why it isn't IN the cage. Nipped his toenail. It bled for a while, wouldn't have seemed like alot but i know they don't have a lot to begin with. So i caught him with a sheet, stressful for him and her watching, and less importantly me to because i don't want to a cause such stress but i digress. Once in the sheet, using my super calm soft guy voice and trying to expose only the foot and him as gently as possible while keeping him mostly immobile, i found his toenail nipped mostly off but still hanging. The bleeding was such that i had to watch for awhile to see if it continued. With a wiggly bird and a sheet that absorbed anything produces evelry time he got wiggly i was able to watch long enough to see it basically gradually wet around the wound, i used flour as a haptic which worked pretty quickly. Now to my point of concern i have him in a make shift segregation cage as we don't have a small cage yet. I'm waiting for a replacement debit card and have very little funds until it arrives (a day or two) unless i can get my bank to let me withdraw money without any of my cards in my lost wallet which I'm trying to accomplish tomorrow when the banks open. Our regular clinic has an avian vet that should be in during the week and i can take him when she's in and i can access my account. The bleeding is stopped, but the tip of his toenail is still attached. They both seem traumatized. Neither is making much noise, and when they call out for the other, for since reason the other doesn't answer. When he gets agitated and started trying to jump out hitting the top i reach my hand in and am seemingly able to calm him, he spent the past hour sitting on my hand in the enclosure or walked up my arm a little, and it seemed to be comforting to him, he only left his perch on my arm when i moved him off so i could get up for a minute and he seemed agitated again for a minute after i removed my extremity from his vicinity. This is by far the most direct interaction that's been possible since they got here, but I'm concerned about their separation, but also his nail getting disturbed, restarting the bleeding. I thought them being next to each other so they could chatter would help the separation but it doesn't seem to be since they don't seem to be communicating. Any advice would be appreciated, should i let him in the big cage so have each other, or shouldi keep him in this small enclosure (a Rubbermaid drawer with a grate from a box fan on top, with seed and water and the sheet i used to capture and wrap him earlier. They always chatter and chirp and whistle, even while asleep, always next to each other one or other of their perches. The silence is deafening, and heartbreaking, and if she could have a look on face i swear she looks distraught. Any advice is welcome.