Budgies of Anubhav

[anubhav]

Hi everyone..My name is Anubhav & I am from India and Budgies are my favourite. Few times I face problem regarding few mutations. I hope all the experts here will guide me so that I can learn more about the mutation part.:smile015:

 

[anubhav]

Can anyone guide me with the mutation of these three budgies??

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3.

 

[Rozalka]

I'm not expert but my ideas are:
1. blue sf spangle
2. cinnamon blue
3. pied blue (there can be many types of pieds but I don't know them)
Somewhere I can be wrong, the 1st one I'm the most sure

 

[anubhav]

@Rozalka cinnamon blue?? are you sure? coz as per my knowledge, to be a cinnamon it needs to have a light brown feathers and markings instead of black. I think its an Opaline as its mother is an Albino and father is a yellowface blue opaline.

Also the 3rd one is dominant pied or recessive?

 

[Rozalka]

@Rozalka cinnamon blue?? are you sure? coz as per my knowledge, to be a cinnamon it needs to have a light brown feathers and markings instead of black. I think its an Opaline as its mother is an Albino and father is a yellowface blue opaline.

Also the 3rd one is dominant pied or recessive?

No, I wasn't sure I also was thinking about the opaline mutation but I'm not sure because the "wave-break" is so small. I've just found on the Internet a good comparision of opaline and "non-opaline" backs:

They are green, but in blue it works simillar. As you see this changes the shapes of waves but not the color. It means that there have to be one more mutation something like cinnamon (yep, the waves shoud be brown) or dilute (there are 3 types of this mutation)
About the type of pied I can't help

 

[Laurasea]

Link to mutation
https://puppiesareprozac.com/budgie-parakeet/colors-varieties-mutations-genetics/

 

[anubhav]

Anyone else can also share their opinion on this

 

[Cardinal]

@Rozalka cinnamon blue?? are you sure? coz as per my knowledge, to be a cinnamon it needs to have a light brown feathers and markings instead of black. I think its an Opaline as its mother is an Albino and father is a yellowface blue opaline.

Also the 3rd one is dominant pied or recessive?

No, I wasn't sure I also was thinking about the opaline mutation but I'm not sure because the "wave-break" is so small. I've just found on the Internet a good comparision of opaline and "non-opaline" backs:

They are green, but in blue it works simillar. As you see this changes the shapes of waves but not the color. It means that there have to be one more mutation something like cinnamon (yep, the waves shoud be brown) or dilute (there are 3 types of this mutation)
About the type of pied I can't help

Beautiful contrast between the Opaline and the Wild type

 

[Cardinal]

@Rozalka cinnamon blue?? are you sure? coz as per my knowledge, to be a cinnamon it needs to have a light brown feathers and markings instead of black. I think its an Opaline as its mother is an Albino and father is a yellowface blue opaline.

Also the 3rd one is dominant pied or recessive?

I am not an expert on mutations either but

1 is spangle and 3 is recessive pied- it is easy to differentiate recessive and dominant pied- check on google.

I don't know about 2nd one.

 

[anubhav]

For the 2nd one first I guessed it as an Opaline coz of the 'V' factor at the neck portion and also because her mother is an Albino and father is an Opaline too and also one of my friend told me that it might be a Dilute one too....what you say??


Also regarding thie Spangle am having a small doubt. In this picture its clearly visible that its a Spangle but the picture is 4-5 months older. Now he developed very small tinge of his sky blue body color on the edges of few wing feathers that also in the upper region close to the neck. I somewhere read that if body color is visible on wing feathers for a Spangle then its a Spangle Opaline. Can anyone help me on this??

 

[Rozalka]

This also is possible the 2nd one is dilute opaline blue


One of my budgies is opaline spangle blue - is your budgie similar to her?

 

[anubhav]

She is so so beautiful....


this is the current picture of him. As i said that a very little tinge of body color is present there in his wings close to the neck area... but thats very less in compare to your bird.

 

[anubhav]

@Rozalka what's your final say regarding my bird? Only spangle or spangle opaline?

 

[Rozalka]

He looks like just spangle to me, I don't see "V" shape. Do you know his parents? This could help

 

[anubhav]

He looks like just spangle to me, I don't see "V" shape. Do you know his parents? This could help

His father is a cobalt violet opaline spangle (much like ur bird apart from the color) and mum was a clear sky blue spangle (she is no more)

 

[Rozalka]

He looks like just spangle to me, I don't see "V" shape. Do you know his parents? This could help

His father is a cobalt violet opaline spangle (much like ur bird apart from the color) and mum was a clear sky blue spangle (she is no more)

Thanks, now it's sure, your budgie isn't opaline because from genetics it's impossible to get opaline male after this pair

 

[anubhav]

Can anyone help me with this mutation ?? He is fully white like an Albino but with black eyes.

 

[Rozalka]

Maybe blue df spangle? Do you know his parents?

 

[anubhav]

His parents are Spangles too...and as per my knowledge DF spangles get an iris on their eyes and also blue cere when the grow up. He is 9months old and his cere is completely pink and with no sign of iris in his eyes.

is there any possibilities that its a Dark Eyed Clear ?

correct me if am wrong.