canary in a coal mine.african gray and two conures dead.

[rope]

we put a stove liner in our gas stove to cook the turkey..our african gray and two conures fell over and died within minutes of each other..this was after hours of cooking..as we looked into this when you cover any air vent in the bottom of a gas stove it will make the flame burn more red..this makes way more co2..the reason why they use to take a canary into the coal mine was if the bird started to act funny or fell over the coal miners would get out asap..this was a horrible thanksgiving but hopefully may save other pets out there..the stove liners should have in large print how dangerous they can be.

 

[Dopey]

I am so sorry for you loss.

 

[wrench13]

OMG, I am soo sorry for you and your family. A horrible thanksgiving indeed. What were their names and how long did you have them.

 

[Flboy]

This is so horrible! I am so sorry!

I just did some quick reading, in a gas stove, they must only be put on the bottom shelf. They are non stick coated, your babies may hav died from this also!

 

[Kentuckienne]

I am so sorry. The liners often have teflon on them, and when heated they give off fumes which are extremely toxic to birds. Any kind of non-stick pans, bakeware, oven liners, etc. is dangerous. Thank you for sharing this sad information - maybe it will save a parrot's life some day.

 

[GaleriaGila]

Please accept my deepest and most sincere sympathy. Thank you for sharing, so that other birds may be spared. That was very brave of you. Thank you.

 

[MonicaMc]

My condolences for the loss of your birds. Lost one of my own a couple of nights prior to Thanksgiving, although it was due to age related health issues. Makes for a lousy holiday....

 

[Notdumasilook]

Reading this is heartbreaking. Teflon items need a big red warning on them for people that don't know.... but I guess some bean counter thought it would hurt sales.
So very very sorry for your loss. I cant imagine how bad you feel.

 

[Inger]

So so sorry for your loss. What a sad way to end a holiday.


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[ErikaDunkelheit]

I'm so sad reading what happened.
I really feel for you and i send u a hug!

 

[Gorden9001]

Sorry for your lost

 

[Scott]

My deepest condolences, very sorry to hear you lost three birds.

 

[LeaKP]

Oh my! We are devastated for you!


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[Billdore]

Oh my goodness I'm so sorry for your loss, and like others have said I hope this thread helps to save the lives of others in the future. I'm so sorry.

 

[Tami2]

Oh No, I’m so sorry, how awful. My heart aches for you all :heart:

 

[rope]

their names were...african gray timneh (bogart) he was incredible..we didn't clip his wings..he would fly around in our cathedral and get lots of rubs every morning for an hour or two..he loved it when i rubbed his entire body..i've had a lot of pets in my life but this one was so special..he got out of his cage a couple months ago and a hawk chased him away..i thought for sure the hawk got him..but 3 days later someone turned him in and we got him back..now this..i was hunting deep woods during thanksgiving far away from people..maybe i would have caught it on time if i was here..i don't cook much it was lisa that used the nonstick oven liner by nordic ware...i think i'm going to look into sueing them..its not right...i saved the box..i froze the birds..i saved the liner..i'm really upset..bogart was going to be 3 in feb 9th..we got bogart as a baby..then we had goomer..a sun conure..9 years old..we got goomer as a baby and 4 years ago picked up a male for her..they loved each other so much i can't tell you..but bogart was my favorite..he and i were so close..thanks....billy

 

[SailBoat]

Reading this is heartbreaking. Teflon items need a big red warning on them for people that don't know.... but I guess some bean counter thought it would hurt sales.
So very very sorry for your loss. I cant imagine how bad you feel.

I am so sorry. The liners often have teflon on them, and when heated they give off fumes which are extremely toxic to birds. Any kind of non-stick pans, bakeware, oven liners, etc. is dangerous. Thank you for sharing this sad information - maybe it will save a parrot's life some day.

I am very sorry to hear of the loss of your babies.

With the loss of your sweet feathered loved ones, this is likely not the time to split hairs regarding their loss. That said, an orange flame, will produce a bit more co2 than a blue flame, which is the design target of the manufacturer (a blue flame). A fully Yellow flame produces the greatest amount of co2.

The co2 death of the three Parrots should have also, seen several of the Human's showing the effects of high levels of co2, including: sleepy, headaches, watery eyes, shortness of breath, etc...

Sadly, placement of most co2 detectors make them useless to protecting one's Parrots as they are commonly located near the furnace. The average home should have a minimum of two co2 protectors.

I am assuming that your liner was near a tight fit into the oven chamber. That configuration would have limited heat above the liner and greatly increased the heat under it. That would easily created enough heat below a coated liner to cause off-gassing.

The only sign of this gas would have been possible shortness of breath of those members who are smokers and /or COPD suffers. Continued or great level of this gas would have had them passing also!

It would be advisable to have all members of your family check for high levels of either in their blood systems. At the bare minimum, call your nearby MedCare facility and ask that question.

 

[SailBoat]

their names were...african gray timneh (bogart) he was incredible..we didn't clip his wings..he would fly around in our cathedral and get lots of rubs every morning for an hour or two..he loved it when i rubbed his entire body..i've had a lot of pets in my life but this one was so special..he got out of his cage a couple months ago and a hawk chased him away..i thought for sure the hawk got him..but 3 days later someone turned him in and we got him back..now this..i was hunting deep woods during thanksgiving far away from people..maybe i would have caught it on time if i was here..i don't cook much it was lisa that used the nonstick oven liner by nordic ware...i think i'm going to look into sueing them..its not right...i saved the box..i froze the birds..i saved the liner..i'm really upset..bogart was going to be 3 in feb 9th..we got bogart as a baby..then we had goomer..a sun conure..9 years old..we got goomer as a baby and 4 years ago picked up a male for her..they loved each other so much i can't tell you..but bogart was my favorite..he and i were so close..thanks....billy

Do not freeze your Parrots! Just place them in the Frig!