Hi, I'm new here and am trying to search through the forum but there is just a multitude of info that I don't have time to read all of it about egg bound birds. Hoping its ok to start fresh.
My question, and then I'll give the background story. What is your impression of this poop?
This was from about 10PM last night to this morning just before 6AM. They are 3.5", 4", and 4.5" long all one color of a nice healthy looking green. There is dried liquid surrounding each 'strand'
This is an 8 year old apparently female but not DNA tested jenday conure. I got her with 2 other jendays all living together in the same cage on Friday, July 24, 2015 so about 2 weeks ago.
At that time until now, this bird has had a bulging lower abdomen. She tends to hide herself, it seems like to me, by always clinging to the side of the cage facing away from where I am.
Yesterday, I took her to the vet and had a number of tests run which I won't get the results for til next week. He also did an ultrasound and determined that it is most likely an egg. He also said that all the structures surrounding the 'egg' look normal.
He gave me 3 options:
1 - exploratory surgery - nope
2- leave her there for a few days- that they have a 90% success rate of helping birds pass their eggs
3- take her home and try it myself using his instructions and see if she can pass the egg on her own with my help for a couple of days before we try option #2.
I chose the 3rd option. He gave her supportive fluids and vitamins to harden the egg and calcium, etc by injection and prescribed this fortified prescription food by LeFeber called Nutri-an Cakes.
She only weighs 116.7 g and her keel bone is quite pronounced. Avg normal weight for a jenday is 118g with a range of 105-130 according to http://www.scottemcdonald.com/pdfs/Average Weights.pdf . This would seem to put her WNL but that keel bone...
Before I got her, her diet consisted of some unknown brand of hookbill formula seeds and papaya.
Since I have them for these 2 weeks, they have gotten very little Volkmans hookbill mixture of seeds while I wean them to the diet the rest of my birds get which is:
AM VERY bountiful (at least 10 ingredients daily) fruit/vegetable/flax & chia seed mixture every morning lightly coated about every other day with some organic coconut oil. I sprinkle all their food, every time (only for about a week now) with a mixture of spiralina and chlorella powders.
They eat on that for an hour or so, then I clean it all up and give them their pellets that they can eat on demand all day.
Pellets are a blend of RB California Blend, RB Maintenance, RB Rice, and these organic pellets I get from the Womacks at feedyourflockdotcom.
The 3 conures all seem to be very hearty eaters and her poop has gone from being a blob of yellow pudding with no separation of urates, etc to what you see above and this next one which came longer than 2 hours and 20 minutes later. Note a piece of undgiested papaya in there too. I fed her that while she was waiting for me to fix the rest of the breakfast.
She has what I've seen termed in this forum as "egg bum".
The doctor told me to keep her in moist heat with a heating pad at one end (not under), a damp cloth inside the cage to create the moisture and keep her calm with a towel on the cage but keep one end open for the heat to escape. I did this except for the moist cloth. Instead I used a vaporizer on one end and the heating pad on the other. I covered it with a towel and then left a "window" for some of the hot air to escape and not cook the birdie.
This morning, she looks healthy and strong and I have observed her eating quite a bit of fresh this morning. Haven't seen her touch her pellets or the Nutri-an cakes yet but at this point I want her eating SOMETHING to plump up that keel bone area.
I was wondering if that poop would qualify as "egg poop", those big bombs that usually happen first thing in the morning or soon before an egg is laid.
Any other info and advice on this matter would be appreciated and I'll post any updates here.
Thanks in advance.
My question, and then I'll give the background story. What is your impression of this poop?
This is an 8 year old apparently female but not DNA tested jenday conure. I got her with 2 other jendays all living together in the same cage on Friday, July 24, 2015 so about 2 weeks ago.
At that time until now, this bird has had a bulging lower abdomen. She tends to hide herself, it seems like to me, by always clinging to the side of the cage facing away from where I am.
Yesterday, I took her to the vet and had a number of tests run which I won't get the results for til next week. He also did an ultrasound and determined that it is most likely an egg. He also said that all the structures surrounding the 'egg' look normal.
He gave me 3 options:
1 - exploratory surgery - nope
2- leave her there for a few days- that they have a 90% success rate of helping birds pass their eggs
3- take her home and try it myself using his instructions and see if she can pass the egg on her own with my help for a couple of days before we try option #2.
I chose the 3rd option. He gave her supportive fluids and vitamins to harden the egg and calcium, etc by injection and prescribed this fortified prescription food by LeFeber called Nutri-an Cakes.
She only weighs 116.7 g and her keel bone is quite pronounced. Avg normal weight for a jenday is 118g with a range of 105-130 according to http://www.scottemcdonald.com/pdfs/Average Weights.pdf . This would seem to put her WNL but that keel bone...
Before I got her, her diet consisted of some unknown brand of hookbill formula seeds and papaya.
Since I have them for these 2 weeks, they have gotten very little Volkmans hookbill mixture of seeds while I wean them to the diet the rest of my birds get which is:
AM VERY bountiful (at least 10 ingredients daily) fruit/vegetable/flax & chia seed mixture every morning lightly coated about every other day with some organic coconut oil. I sprinkle all their food, every time (only for about a week now) with a mixture of spiralina and chlorella powders.
They eat on that for an hour or so, then I clean it all up and give them their pellets that they can eat on demand all day.
Pellets are a blend of RB California Blend, RB Maintenance, RB Rice, and these organic pellets I get from the Womacks at feedyourflockdotcom.
The 3 conures all seem to be very hearty eaters and her poop has gone from being a blob of yellow pudding with no separation of urates, etc to what you see above and this next one which came longer than 2 hours and 20 minutes later. Note a piece of undgiested papaya in there too. I fed her that while she was waiting for me to fix the rest of the breakfast.
She has what I've seen termed in this forum as "egg bum".
The doctor told me to keep her in moist heat with a heating pad at one end (not under), a damp cloth inside the cage to create the moisture and keep her calm with a towel on the cage but keep one end open for the heat to escape. I did this except for the moist cloth. Instead I used a vaporizer on one end and the heating pad on the other. I covered it with a towel and then left a "window" for some of the hot air to escape and not cook the birdie.
This morning, she looks healthy and strong and I have observed her eating quite a bit of fresh this morning. Haven't seen her touch her pellets or the Nutri-an cakes yet but at this point I want her eating SOMETHING to plump up that keel bone area.
I was wondering if that poop would qualify as "egg poop", those big bombs that usually happen first thing in the morning or soon before an egg is laid.
Any other info and advice on this matter would be appreciated and I'll post any updates here.
Thanks in advance.
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