So it worked out... We had a vet appt on saturday. I was trying to get near him with a towel but he wasn't having it. Even with my wife trying to distract him he was glaring at me the whole time and moving away from me. He ended up fluttering to the floor where I was able to have him step up without much of a problem at all. I then set him in the bird carrier and closed the top. He was trying to climb out but it wasn't a big deal. Our vet says he is a bit fat still. But thinks he will lose some now that he's on harrison's mainly. He did say that he wouldn't be surprised if Kawie starting flying once he lost weight. I guess that 16 years of human food from his previous owners packed on the lbs... lol. But he has taken to the pellets pretty well and he still gets treats like grapes, peppers, etc. Just not alot of the other junk. We did some blood work just to make sure things check out ok. If we want to DNA test his gender we can do that. I am on the fence on that one. He has been called good boy his whole life. I would hate that to turn out to be the opposite. He hasnt laid any eggs so I dunno. Though the vet said that he knew a too that didnt lay her first egg til age 40, but admitted thats rather rare. His idea behind getting the DNA test done is then if Kawie gets sick then some gender based problems might be eliminated immediately if we knew for sure. So we might get that done. He also mentioned removing the band from his leg and implanting a chip. He said there isnt as much of a problem with wild caught greys anymore so removing the band wouldnt be a big deal other than if I tried to travel overseas with him. Which I doubt that would happen. He showed us how to towel in case it was needed so thats nice. It was alot to contemplate and learn about. I am very happy we got him checked out though. He said aside from his weight and pending any bad news on the labs he looks good. We got to hold him a bunch that day in the vet's office which was AWESOME! But he was definately tired when he got home. He wanted nothing to do with food / treats / water etc. Almost for a full day. But now he's back to his old self and doing well.