How is this justified?

[triordan]

I know someone who runs a rescue out of her basement. They announced on FB today that they have been really busy lately and congratulations to __&__ new parents to 5 babies! This seems very hypocritical, as far as I am concerned it cant be justified! Being a rescue and allowing breeding??
I would love to say something but I am speechless~

 

[Terry57]

We have a person near me who calls herself a rescue and breeds as well. Her new ad yesterday said she had just received lovebirds with eggs, and that she was going to handfeed the babies and that they will be ready to go in 2 weeks., when they have not even hatched yet
I don't get it.

 

[jenphilly]

Sounds like just a bird flipper with a more elaborate setup... I saw on craigslist today someone posting for a female amazon to pair up with their male. I flagged it... just cannot be convinced they won't be breeding and selling babies.

 

[triordan]

I know, she claims to be a legit rescue, but this behavior tells me otherwise

 

[Sterling1113]

It's a shame when people do things like that.
Terry: That's just awful. Hopefully anybody who is looking into buying a bird will have enough common sense to know that those are not properly brought up nor old enough to be sold ANY TIME soon.
I see ads on cragslist near me all the time about people looking for "companions" and "partners" for their Macaws.. Even offering to pay people to let them "borrow" their macaw if they bond and act like they'll make babies. I didn't know you could flag them for that, will it actually be taken down?!

 

[RavensGryf]

There's a lot of that out there. It's a real shame. People will always do with animals what makes THEM (the people) happy and fulfilled regardless of the welfare of the animals. If they don't care about perpetuating the overcrowding problem, they CERTAINLY DON'T CARE about contagious diseases spreading through our bird community either! I take offense!

 

[antoinette]

Terrible when someone rescues birds and breeds them

Some people with do anything to make the extra buck

The worst is they probably do not care and love birds

It's a shame

There is a saying "MONEY TALKS"

 

[Sterling1113]

It's a shame

There is a saying "MONEY TALKS"

It is a shame, and money speaks wonders about the people who possess it and use it unkindly..

Sort of unrelated, but also related, is people that try to get birds for free or cheap when they know NOTHING about the bird..

Given there could be a language barrier, but anyone who thinks someone is gonna just come by and drop off their macaw for "cheep" to someone who doesn't seem like they care to express knowledge of the bird.. nuh-uh.

 

[KierneM]

Umm, I may be a complete newbie to birds.
, but even I know that 2 weeks is way, way too soon. The poor dear birds.
Just so I can file this away, if a rescue allows bonded birds to remain together and produce babies, I'm probably dealing with a flipper?

 

[TessieB]

Too bad. Some people think calling themselves a 'rescue' somehow gives them status.

"Why do you have so many birds?"

"I'm rescue."

"Oh, wow, cool!"

When a person call themselves a rescue I ask for the paperwork to prove it. Are they 501 C for tax purposes? Do they have veterinary references?

People ask me all the time if I am a rescue and I tell them, "No, I have a collection of animals who will live out their lives here. They are not for sale, and are not expected to provide me with any type of income."

People who call themselves a rescue then breed those under their care are simply backyard breeders trying to boost their image in the eyes of uninformed people.

Having said that, there are serious breeders who may take in an unwanted bird or take back a bird they sold. And while they may not call themselves a rescue, they truly have more heart than some 'rescues' out there.

 

[critterman]

So sad but it happens more than we all know. And yes for some it is all about the money and not the best of the birds. Sad. Shame on them......

 

[DanR]

Sounds like just a bird flipper with a more elaborate setup... I saw on craigslist today someone posting for a female amazon to pair up with their male. I flagged it... just cannot be convinced they won't be breeding and selling babies.

I could be wrong, but unless the ad is fraudulent or abusive or against any of the other CL terms, they won't remove a listing. They don't police for ethics or even common sense unfortunately, they look for fraud and criminal activity. I flagged a couple of posts myself from 2 breeders that I knew were puppy mills but the listings were never removed.

 

[Kalidasa]

Probably a hoarder. People who hoard animals call themselves "rescuing" them, when in fact the conditions are usually deplorable. Same way hoarders call themselves "collectors" but they live in a pigsty. Animal hoarders are the worst, and need to be thrown in jail instead of mollycoddled by society.

 

[PetoftheDay]

My immediate thought was they rescued a bird that happened to be "in the family way" and at least if it is a "legit" rescue, the babies will have a better shot at life than some irresponsible breeder.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[triordan]

I was thinking hoarder because it seemed any bird that someone was interested in "wasn't available for adoption, they are my personal birds". Not sure if they have the 501C status, but they are trying to become big time, I hope it doesn't happen....and not sure if it came "in the family way" but I doubt it since they posted congrats to ___&___ and the birth of 5 babies~

 

[MamaFuzz]

This is directly from the partial listing of prohibited things on craigslist. "pet sales (re-homing with small adoption fee ok), animal parts, stud service" So all those people breeding, looking for breeders, or selling their birds at high prices can be flagged.

 

[MonicaMc]

I flagged a couple of posts myself from 2 breeders that I knew were puppy mills but the listings were never removed.

You need at least 3 people from different IP addresses to flag a post on Craigslist to get it removed. The only "Craigslist Police" there are, are those that look at Craigslist. Craigslist itself does not monitor each post made, nor does it monitor each post that has been flagged.




I think there's also a rescue in my area that breeds it's animals and puts the animals up for sale at a high price. It will even market rescue animals as breeding animals. I do not agree with this.


I've actually become friends with a breeder that also does rescue. The rescue birds are not used as breeders and are rehomed as pets.


Saying that, some rescue birds may actually do better in a breeding situation rather than a pet situation. Not all rescue birds were previously pets. Some/many are breeder birds that would not do well in a pet situation. Saying that, you could always keep a bird, possibly pair it up with another bird, then "retire" them - as in, not encouraging breeding the birds, but not making them pets, either. Just allowing the birds to be and exist. Providing them with the essentials to keep them healthy and happy.