Is this ok or should I intervene or?

[clark_conure]

So clark Jr. and Scuti Jr. got in a bit of a tussle. It actually lasted for a few minutes and didn't get the beginning where one was on its back and both going at it.

I don't know who did what to start it and didn't record the first few minutes I heard some tussling and budgie calls then turned and thought they might be mating at first as one was on the others back.

Scuti kept breaking them up. (good bird). Both are flighted and could withdrawal but both kept going at it till they got tired and were interrupted by the quaker and I enough times.

Is this ok? is it sometimes just something that happens but no need to worry it's just pecking order? No one seems hurt from it from watching. These birds have spent years together....it's not like a new bird introduced.

 

[clark_conure]

Also notice the new baby GCC is like, meh not my concern. This treat stick is delicious........sigh.

 

[Terry57]

Based on the video, Scuti seemed to be much more aggressive than the budgies. I think your budgies may have worked it out themselves if given time. I'd be very careful when the budgies are out with her. Even birds who have gotten along for years can sometimes attack due to hormones, or them just having a bad day.

 

[Laurasea]

I love how Scuti is so politely asking them to cut that out.
Edit read Terry's reply...but don't agree she she is being bad. Not that a quaker can't be bad, but to me this wasn't
I definitely noticed the cute baby gcc chowing on yummy and not getting evolved.

Possibly mate attempt, but female nit quite ready.....beginning is happy beak possibly regurgitate you. But she isn't ready for leg up mount. Or if is another male doesn't want that. Hard fir me to tell sex of lighter one.

My males have never done more than happy beak and yet to feed each other. So I haven't witnessed this behavior

 

[clark_conure]

Scuti think was just breaking it up. Might be because flock, might be because scuti Jr. was on the losing end mostly. Scuti was the hero in this one even if she prefers scuti jr.


Scuti could have attack but didn't, just got in the middle. She didn't engage just separated. She never engages either bird just injects herself in the middle.

 

[Terry57]

Scuti think was just breaking it up. Might be because flock might be because scuti Jr. was on the losing end mostly. Scuti was the hero in this one even if she prefers scuti jr.


Scuti could have attack but didn't, just got in the middle. She didn't engage just seperatated.

That would have worried me with my flock, but you know yours much better than I do.

 

[clark_conure]

So is this nothing to worry about they can't really do damage like a larger bird or?

 

[clark_conure]

you can see her in the white cage at the beginning she comes out, literally to break up the fight. Good bird is good.

 

[Terry57]

If it were my birds, if they were doing it in a cage together I would be more worried because they can't escape. Since this happened when they were out, I would have done the same thing and let them work this out.
I have had many pairs of budgies, and it looked like your male was ready but your female wasn't there yet. As long as you watch them to make sure he doesn't force the issue then it should be fine. She looked like she was holding her own with him.

 

[Terry57]

you can see her in the white cage at the beginning she comes out, literally to break up the fight. Good bird is good.

Agree to disagree on that. That would have scared me if one of my larger birds acted that way towards my smaller birds.

 

[Laurasea]

quakers do nanny or babysitting in their society..its possible she is playing this role.

Budgies are often victims to other parrots, and not all quakers can be trusted to be around them. Scuti seems fully integrated with them. She definitely didn't seem aggressive to them to me.

But yes things can always change . Hormones..

If feel like mine are also safe around my budgies. As long as no budgies toes are on a caged quakers or my GCC. We all learned that hard lesson. That's why acrylic or on top of all my cages now

 

[clark_conure]

If it were my birds, if they were doing it in a cage together I would be more worried because they can't escape. Since this happened when they were out, I would have done the same thing and let them work this out.
I have had many pairs of budgies, and it looked like your male was ready but your female wasn't there yet. As long as you watch them to make sure he doesn't force the issue then it should be fine. She looked like she was holding her own with him.

Thanks, I really don't know budgies yet.....I know conures and sort of know quakers and I'm proud of my quaker in this instance....she actually moved from one cage flew around to stop the fight. A few times not even the ones videoed..... one of them either tried to mate or one of them really pissed the other one off. As neither disengaged until broken up.

They are fine now but I wish I saw what started it. the white one scuti Jr. took the brunt of it but she's (probably) female and clark jr. is (probably) male.

 

[clark_conure]

Agree to disagree on that. That would have scared me if one of my larger birds acted that way towards my smaller birds.

Scuti lives and cages with those budgies....I think it was flock behavior they sleep together.

 

[Terry57]

Scuti lives and cages with those budgies....I think it was flock behavior they sleep together.

Please don't think I'm judging you. I have a large flock and I'm simply telling you how I would feel about it. Of course, you know your birds better than I do, but I'm telling you what it looked like from that video to me.

 

[clark_conure]

She never lunges or pecks at either.....I feel safer her intervening after watching this than me trying to intervene...she's the expert this time and I think she did well....she never threatened either party...

 

[Laurasea]

on the question can a male budgie harm a female who isn't responding to his advances. I think yes, if she can't get away...Terry has had pairs so she will know better.

 

[clark_conure]

Please don't think I'm judging you. I have a large flock and I'm simply telling you how I would feel about it. Of course, you know your birds better than I do, but I'm telling you what it looked like from that video to me.

Oh I don't like it one bit......I think scuti did a good job just coming out of one cage walking down the middle like um...no....stop....

 

[Terry57]

Oh I don't like it one bit......I think scuti did a good job just coming out of one cage walking down the middle like um...no....stop....

If you ask for opinions, you don't have to like all of them. I stand by my opinion.

 

[clark_conure]

They are getting along again.....so i think whatever one did it's ok now. The law of the flock was upheld.

 

[clark_conure]

I respect your opinion I just didn't see any aggression in the quaker really other than trying to break up a fight in her flock. in part 2....maybe....but not really she just split them up and they both flew away to other areas. I trust scuti with the budgies.