Mutation help

[Lanazielinski]

I'm wondering if anyone can help me identify the colour mutation of my ringneck. I thought cinnamon violet but I'm just not sure. Any ideas?

 

[DonnaBudgie]

Do you know what his parents were? If he's cinnamon that means that he has two cinnamon genes because it's a sex linked recessive trait. His mother had to be cinnamon and his father had to be cinnamon or carry cinnamon.
If his mother was NOT cinnamon, then your bird is not cinnamon. His ring looks brownish which would indicate that he may be cinnamon.

He also looks to be pallid violet. The pallid gene makes the violet lighter (paler) and its also a sex linked recessive. He must have two pallid genes, one from his mother who had to be pallid for him to be pallid and one from his father who could be pallid or carrying the pallid gene. I don't know if the pallid genes in a ringneck lighten the color of the black ring to brownish cinnamon color making him look cinnamon when he's not.

If he's a pallid violet cinnamon, he's a pretty rare bird. Sex linked recessive males are much less common than females and to have two sex linked recessive genes in a male is quite rare.

Violet isn't dominant or recesdive- it's partially dominant which means that with one violet gene (single factor) the bird will look violet but not as intense a violet in a bird with two violet genes (double factor).

Whatever he is, he's a very pretty bird!

 

[Angel2025]

Wow that's a beautiful bird

 

[Lanazielinski]

I'm not sure of his parents unfortunately. I just wanted to know what his babies would look like. I have him paired to a blue hen so I'll just have to wait and see what they turn out to be. Thanks for the information it's really interesting to learn about how mutations work

 

[DonnaBudgie]

Assuming his mate is blue.
If he's cinnamon and the female isn't cinnamon, all his daughters will be cinnamon and all his sons will carry the cinnamon gene.
Same with pallid.
If he's violet single factor, half his babies will be violet single factor.

If he has daughters that aren't cinnamon and aren't pallid, you will know that he isn't cinnamon or pallid.
If none of his babies are violet he MAY not be violet. I don't know how many babies a ringneck has in each clutch. The more babies there are without a violet baby appearing the more likely it is that he's not violet.
Isn't genetics fun!