Need help! new puppy! help! please!

[kq_fan]

So we got a new puppy last week and she is just realizing we have a small little living chew toy aka MY BIRD!!!! She lunges at her and always stares at her. I always have a quick response so I get my hand in before chaos happens! I have bopped her in the nose and said no but she is not a good learner and does what she wants! She is 11 weeks old and is obviously still learning but I'm afraid that she will get her! Lilo is watched with the puppy and I don't ever never ever leave her alone with her ever! So what should I do to get Honey (the puppy) to not eat her!?

 

[getwozzy]

Keep them separate.

Under no circumstances should they be put in the position where something could remotely happen.

If you want Lilo to have cage-free time, put honey in a bedroom with the door closed, or get a dog crate and start crate training.

If Honey is out, Lilo needs to be in her cage.... Sorry if this seems a bit over the top, but that's how we do things at my house with our cats... They go in a bedroom if chili is out.

 

[kq_fan]

Will she ever learn to be nice because Lilo is out all day in her play stand and our pups are out all the time.....

 

[getwozzy]

Depends on her breed (some are more prey-driven than others), and how much training you do with her....but no matter how good she ends up being around your birds, you should always be on guard- accidents can happen in a split second.

I would be extra cautious while she's a puppy, just because they are more playful, bouncy, and nippy.

 

[Kalidasa]

I don't think getwozzys advice is over the top at all. The slightest slip, and your bird is either dead or horribly, painfully maimed for life. The dog needs to have excellent obedience before you can even think about it. I cannot count how many people on this very forum posted in the bereavement section over a dog grabbing their bird. If the puppy is this gung-ho about getting Lilo, then he shouldn't have any access whatsoever to her at all. And it's definately not good for Lilo to see this dog stalking her, it will put her in a constant state of fear and stress, which is bad for her health.
The dog needs to be well trained, and under control to even consider such a thing. What breed?

 

[kq_fan]

Oh getwozzy was not over he top at all! I totally agree! I have decided when puppy is very rambunctious and playful bird goes in cage, when puppy is sleeping bird is with me. Lilo will be watched with the puppy at all times! Thanks for all the reply!

 

[getwozzy]

So, are you going to post pictures of this cute little puppy or keep us in suspense??? [emoji6] hahaha

 

[kq_fan]

I will make a folder on my profile but otherwise I have no idea how to post on here....

 

[kq_fan]

Ok so I just loaded them on my profile if anyone wants to see her! Caution you may be over come with a adorable wave of cuteness!

 

[EAI]

I see YouTube videos of sweet dogs with birds but I'm always secretly against it.

I accidentally introduces Izzy to our dogs and she never had a fear of either of them, this resulted in her constantly tying to get near them. This lead to her death because she snuck out and went into the dangerous area where our boston was able to get out.


Even with the most amount of obedience a dog could have, it's never safe for two completely different species of animals to be around each other (especially not a predator and prey).


Sorry if If I'm late on this, it was prewritten on my laptop but I never had time to post it

 

[Kalidasa]

I went to your profile and didn't see it, or couldn't recognize the new one. Which dog is it! All's I could see was your siggy.

 

[kq_fan]

Oh I will see if it works on this computer!

It should be there but I guess not? IDK!

 

[kq_fan]

EAI: I am so sorry that happened! I guess I should have Lilo in her cage while puppy is out!

 

[EAI]

EAI: I am so sorry that happened! I guess I should have Lilo in her cage while puppy is out!

That is what has to happen for me. Once a dog is out he has to go into his cage, but since I don't care for them (cleaning/feeding ect) I stay by his cage and scritch him throughout the bar.

Make sure they both get good amount of quality time. Is it possible you can rotate whose outside?

 

[kq_fan]

Maybe It will be hard for both though. :/

 

[Selestine]

I wanted to post this video on training your dog to "Leave It"

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEeS2dPpPtA"]Leave it part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

My personal preference when training this is to NEVER reward the dog with the treat that is actually in your hand. Treat with a different (higher value) treat from the other hand. This helps reinforce that the item you are telling them to "leave" is never to go in their mouth.

Then, you make your birds something to "leave it". I was lucky enough to have had my dogs already when we brought birds home, and they already had strong leave it commands. After the birds were comfortable enough to meet the dogs, the dogs were told leave it when presented with the birds.

Obviously no matter how good your dog(s) is, you never want to leave them alone together. Even a dog with zero desire to hurt your bird can step on it by accident, or just be having a bad day. It can help give you some peace of mind, though, to know that your dog has an idea of what you expect.

My daughter's bird (the sun conure), in particular, seems to think that flying and landing on a dog is a fabulous idea. If he's heading in that direction and I'm not going to be able to scoop him out of the air before he gets there, the dogs get told "leave it" again and wait patiently until I retrieve the bird from wherever he decided to land -.-

I always, always give the dogs a treat when they give me a chance to reinforce them for being sweet around the birds.

 

[strudel]

She's gorgeous.

You should be able to train puppy when he's older, but he's just too young to have any clue about anything. It's like a toddler, they see a cake and they'll grab it, they don't have any clue about self-restraint. They don't even start training guide dogs until the puppies are a certain age, because they just don't "get it" until they are old enough.

I can have my bird here with everybody, but I'd never leave her unattended because my dogs could never be relied on to "self-regulate" and one in particular is very "grabby". Also, it's not just the bird you need to be concerned about, when my dog is getting sticky nosed with her, she starts the bitey movements. If she got close enough to nip the dog, I can bet you the dog would nip back.

Totally agree to keep them apart. When pup's got some training going and has grown up a bit, then things might be different.

 

[kq_fan]

Thanks guys and thanks for the video! That will help! And good news, she has not been getting the concept of pee OUTSIDE but I didn't expect any better she is only 11 weeks!!! But she amazed us all and went outside and peed all by herself!!! She is awesome!

 

[strudel]

They are "awesomely" clever dogs, that's why they get picked to be assistance dogs.

Their brains are still developing until they are 2-ish so it'll be a while before she's got the equipment to fulfil her complete awesomeness but she'll soak up training like a sponge as she grows.

Also, when they are so little, they have "go" and "stop". When she's older she'll have shades of grey, go full out on a run, sit quietly and chill, etc.

How exciting.