non banded bird?

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I am curious about what you all think of purchasing a parrot without a leg band. This is a young bird from a hobby breeder. I am a little uncertain as I thought most birds were banded. Thoughts?
 
Most are. Some breeders dint band but most do. I had Erin band removed because it's a safety issue. If something catches on it her leg will snap in escape before a steel band does. The band does nothing for US as owners except tell if it's been through quarantine ( 2 groups of 3 numbers Wilkinson show if quarantined) and the year born. The letters and numbers are just like serial numbers on shirts, the breeder or store will know if it was one of Thierry that's it. If some one finds your bird they can't trace the band numbers back to you. But some states may require it for travel.
 
I would personally prefer mine banded, as long as it wasn't causing them any distress and was fitted properly; simply so they can track them if they escape. Just my preference.
 
Codie isn't banded and never was! Alot of Breeders here in the UK dont use them as there have been so many issues with the Bands irritating the Birds.
 
Thanks for the replies! Nice to know that it can be a personal preference. I guess I would lean on having the bird banded, but I see that I shouldn't discount a non-banded bird based upon just this factor. I was worried it was a factor relating to the professionalism of the breeder.
 
None of my birds are banded, I prefer it that way. Less of safety hazard for them, and less worry for me. I rescued a linnie once that had flown into someones garage. She was banded, but try as I might it was completely untraceable. The only thing a band would do for you if a bird escaped was give you something to identify it by, and microchips work better and are safer for the bird.
 
It is personal preference I though a band was used to link my ownership to it like a microchip. As if she were to be at a she, terrier they'd look up her band and be able to find me, which isn't true. The up side of having a band is if some one funds her and asks for proof she is yours or if you're accused of illegally importing her or stealing her you can show papers with he matching band numbers, but even if you were to remove her band you'd get it back and there is papers the vet gives you saying it was removed for safety issues and the band is just filed with the papers and that itself is proof, too.
 
A lot of breeders do not use bands .It is a personal prefance of the breeder two of birds have no band and two have a band.:D
 
I have an Appedix I (Protected, particularly in regards to importation) and she was purchased from a place that takes in unwanted birds and finds them new homes (but isn't a rescue). We were told that while she had no band, the previous owners would provide paperwork in regards to her breeding (to ensure that she was bred in the US and not wild-caught). We fell in love and Sugar came home with us. The previous owners refused to talk to the person we got Sugar from, never gave us her paperwork and then moved to Costa Rica!

I love my Sugar, but I foresee many issues due to her status and being unbanded. I can't go to some place like California as a result, which means that if my husband were to get a job offer there, he'd most likely have to pass it up, or we'd have to find Sugar a new home.

My advice? Don't buy a bird that isn't either banded, or already has their paperwork ready.
 
Interesting and I had worried about that. It wouldn't be a problem for me now, but if we travel or move in retirement, it could pose a problem. What kind of "paperwork" are you referring to? Just a document from the breeder stating age, breeder id, etc? Sorry for your situation, by the way!
 
I think as far as bands go ,it depends on what type of parrot you are interested in whether it has the potential to be important or not. What kind of parrot are you thinking of getting or is it a secret;) Is it small, medium,large or extra large:D
 
I had my conures and eclectus band removed. Its not required for them to have it and I don't like it on their foot. I still have the bands though in a plastic baggie in my safe as well as my invoice showing date from vet when the bands where removed.

If i had an import parrot then i would leave it, as that is required to show it legally entered the country which give the band a purpose. I have a hatch certificate for my conure not one for my eclectus but the vet notated her band information on her file so Its trackable and I have a copy.
 
No, it is not a secret :D I just neglected to mention it for some reason...we are thinking about a Blue Crowned Conure. Almost got a Jenday, but have been drawn to the Blue Crowns.
 
Interesting and I had worried about that. It wouldn't be a problem for me now, but if we travel or move in retirement, it could pose a problem. What kind of "paperwork" are you referring to? Just a document from the breeder stating age, breeder id, etc? Sorry for your situation, by the way!

Papers work usually states their breed, weight, dates of vaccinations, band number, and hatch date.
 
Roscoe is not band...when i was working with dr scott sunday there wa one so tight around a macaw it was hurting his leg he had to cut it off
 
Hhmmm I wouldnt think not having a band would hinder travel in any way. I live in California and have a non-banded bird and have seen lots of non banded birds. The one bird I did have that had a band just had the breeders initials and a 3 digit number that meant nothing to anyone except the breeder. Birds that are banded can sometimes get their band off or have it removed. Bands really mean nothing. To travel with your bird you need a vet health certificate. But even when I moved from another state to California I was not questioned at the border check station and of all the times Ive travelled with my birds in and out of california coming back in at the checkpoints I have NEVER been asked about them. And they ride in their travel cage in the front passenger seat, so they were in plain view of the checkpoint people. Dont stress about a non banded bird. No biggy!
 
In NJ all exotic animals must be registered with the state division of game and wildlife. Lucy's band number is on the certificate.

We have been thinking about putting a microchip in but with the vet visit and the chip it's a pretty hefty price.
 
Dr. Scott who is a travel vet..did a full exam sex roscoe in ship him for 45 dollars
 
Ok so upon doing a little more research, some states require that you have a permit with your bird if you will be in that state for more than 48hrs. If the bird does not have a band one can be put on. I could not find where it states on any site (of course I dis not check out ALL the states) where you must have a band to enter the state, ALL states to have laws in place that you MUST have a vet certificate to enter the state. Anyways I think the band thing is up to you, juat check out your personal states laws amd regulations.
 
blue crowned conures look like really neat birds. I have never met one but reading the different posts and looking online they sound really like fun birds:D
 

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