Poop smells in the morning

[Jmoita]

Hello everyone.
I have a African Grey and he eats normally, including some fruit and vegetables.
In the morning, he's big "good morning poop" smells, but the rest of the day he just poops normally (consistence and no smell).

Should I worry? Smell is sign of infection?

 

[Kiwibird]

Personally, I would take your bird to the AV just to be safe. I have never smelled any kind of odor from parrot poo before and to my understanding it should never have an odor.

 

[bill_e]

Nike's morning poop is usually quite voluminous and does have an odor. It is quite noticeable if she goes before I remove the cage cover but not noticeable otherwise (unless I'm the lucky recipient).

 

[bill_e]

After typing the above I realized that I hadn't smelled the poop in a while. I just removed her cover and no smell. I wonder if it is because I've switched from Zupreem to Harrisons.?

 

[SailBoat]

The first and most major movement of the day, commonly pushes much of the general description. Commonly much larger, and dryer. Coloration tends to be traditional, but can favor toward the green with normal white. Smell tends to be normal with little or no noticeable smell.

Note: A grain smell can occur with some pellet or with a food or seed mix higher in grains and with some grass type seeds.

A mid - strong smell can be linked to some spices and /or a diet that includes meat (sometimes bugs and yes they will). Some Fruit /Veggie mixes 'may' result in a mild to light smell.

As Kiwi's mom so very well stated: "Personally, I would take your bird to the AV just to be safe." With that, I would recommend a very detailed list of eating habits over a 48 hour period and the resulting poop. Note, with a wide and varied diet, some Parrots will choose to be selective in their eating patterns that will find them selected (favoring) different food types at different times of the day. That could result in them eating a specific type of food just before bed time.

Depending on the number of other Family members, it is possible that some one is providing an evening 'treat.' Check and double check. That evening beef chip or like could be the source!

A high to mild smell could be an infection or notice of a digestive system problem.

Just what it smells like provides great insight!

 

[Jmoita]

Should I ask for analysis to poop and blood? Anything specific?

 

[Jmoita]

He eats nutribird P15.
(15% protein, 16 fat content, 3.5 Crude fibre, 6.5 ash, 0.9 calcium, 0.3 phosphor, 0.35 methionine, 0.8 lysine, 0.5 threonin, 0.15 tryptophane, 0.25 cystine).

Plus maybe around 20-30 seeds (sunflower and other) as treat/in toys.
Little bit of carrot, very little bit of broccoli.

He as a little cube of bread in the morning and at nigth (not even 2cm x 2 cm) so he can take is medicine (fluoxetine).

 

[SailBoat]

Can you define the smell?

Grain, Beef, different types of spices, etc...

 

[Jmoita]

Idk, strong.
Also it was more liquid.

 

[bill_e]

Nike's was just sweet.....a very mild version of what you might smell if you walked into a closed area with a lot of bird droppings.

 

[SailBoat]

So, assuring that you Parrot is not getting that evening 'no-no' snack, first!

Set-up an appointment with your Avian Vet, if possible a Certified Avian Vet.

- Bring the morning's gift! Set, clean paper under you Parrot just prior to bedtime and take that with you to the appointment! Note: Also, collect any additional droppings prior to the appointment noting the time.

- Have that running account of what was feed the last 24 hours before that mornings movement. Be fully honest: Any and all treats any and all junk foods, etc! Take your dry food packaging that you are currently feeding from with the product still in the packaging. Remember to list all wet foods.

- Do not change what you are currently feeding your Parrot prior to the appointment. This is not the time to make changes as it will only confuse the finds and could end-up costing you much more in additional testings!

- Tests! Your AV will evaluate the poop and select tests from that evaluation. A Gram Stain will likely be a starting point. Depending on the overall findings and the evaluation, additional and more involved testings will occur. A full blood screen is possible. NOTE: Many AV's can preform extensive blood tests on-site and will commonly select on-site or remote lab testing based on level of concern regarding the prior findings. It is not unusual for a CAV to choose both. With the on-site testing being quicker, simpler tests and the remote lab testing being more involved.

Assure you take a pad of paper and pen and take notes!!!

 

[Jmoita]

Nike's was just sweet.....a very mild version of what you might smell if you walked into a closed area with a lot of bird droppings.

Yes, sweet and strong I guess.
Hope I can get it to the vet.

 

[Jmoita]

So, assuring that you Parrot is not getting that evening 'no-no' snack, first!

Set-up an appointment with your Avian Vet, if possible a Certified Avian Vet.

- Bring the morning's gift! Set, clean paper under you Parrot just prior to bedtime and take that with you to the appointment! Note: Also, collect any additional droppings prior to the appointment noting the time.

- Have that running account of what was feed the last 24 hours before that mornings movement. Be fully honest: Any and all treats any and all junk foods, etc! Take your dry food packaging that you are currently feeding from with the product still in the packaging. Remember to list all wet foods.

- Do not change what you are currently feeding your Parrot prior to the appointment. This is not the time to make changes as it will only confuse the finds and could end-up costing you much more in additional testings!

- Tests! Your AV will evaluate the poop and select tests from that evaluation. A Gram Stain will likely be a starting point. Depending on the overall findings and the evaluation, additional and more involved testings will occur. A full blood screen is possible. NOTE: Many AV's can preform extensive blood tests on-site and will commonly select on-site or remote lab testing based on level of concern regarding the prior findings. It is not unusual for a CAV to choose both. With the on-site testing being quicker, simpler tests and the remote lab testing being more involved.

Assure you take a pad of paper and pen and take notes!!!

The only thing I forgot is Apple.

 

[bill_e]

So is this a new phenomenon or something that's always been? Like I said the only time I could smell Nike's was if she did it in the caged when covered.

 

[SailBoat]

Everyday tens-of-thousands of Pet owners around the World are carrying the offering of their Pets into Vet offices! You will simply be join that huge number of like Pet Owners!

If you would like, cut the paper size down, lightly fold it a couple of times and place it in a Zip-Top (or like) baggy! Not having that sample will increase the number and cost of the tests needed. Save yourself that additional cost and time at the Vets office!!!

 

[Jmoita]

So is this a new phenomenon or something that's always been? Like I said the only time I could smell Nike's was if she did it in the caged when covered.

Usually is not me who uncovers him. But my family member told me its usually like this everymorning.

 

[Jmoita]

Btw what problems can be decteted by feaces analysis, but not trough blood?

 

[Billdore]

Any updates? Bacterial and yeast gram negative and positive. I don’t know much technical stuff. Hope all is well.

 

[rodrigo]

Hello everyone.
I have a African Grey and he eats normally, including some fruit and vegetables.
In the morning, he's big "good morning poop" smells, but the rest of the day he just poops normally (consistence and no smell).

Should I worry? Smell is sign of infection?

Hey if the odor is a probelm try putting coffee beans in a jar in the room you keep your parrot in! Coffee beans absorb odor

 

[Just-Passn-Thru]

He eats nutribird P15.
(15% protein, 16 fat content, 3.5 Crude fibre, 6.5 ash, 0.9 calcium, 0.3 phosphor, 0.35 methionine, 0.8 lysine, 0.5 threonin, 0.15 tryptophane, 0.25 cystine).

Plus maybe around 20-30 seeds (sunflower and other) as treat/in toys.
Little bit of carrot, very little bit of broccoli.

He as a little cube of bread in the morning and at nigth (not even 2cm x 2 cm) so he can take is medicine (fluoxetine).

Here's a link about foul smelling droppings in birds
https://pets.thenest.com/parrot-droppings-foul-odor-12160.html

I'm Curious as to why your bird needs to take an antidepressant drug ?
Foul smelling dropping usually indicate, gastro intestinal infection...