Preening Questions

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Oh, all the questions! LOL

Okay, so first off: How much preening is normal? Ricco seems to preen himself quite a bit. He does seem to do it pretty hard, too. I think he's quite an overpreener... He also does pluck sometimes, but not very much. Mainly if he's in a stressful situation, like when he's introduced to a foot toy... He hates them. LOL.

He also does this weird thing where he rubs his head on his back/in his wings. What's that about?

If he's preening and I touch his head, he starts to preen really hard like he itches or something.

Why does he have his beak open a lot? Any specific reason for this or just because?

Also: I'm really beginning to think HE is a SHE... LOL. He sticks things in his feathers which I have read is a female nesting behavior...
 
Overpreeners are easy to spot as you will start seeing ragged feather, white fluffy feathers from under are peeping through a lot and maybe even abld spots! There is the Granny Bitter Spray for birds, and Fooey Bitter spray, which are bird safe. The Fooey can be fund at a Petco, The Granny might have to be bought online just spray on their feathers if they are preening too much a viola!

The rubbing of the head on back and wings i have no clue about.
But when my bird is preening and I pet her she often preens harder out o comfort or she stretches her neck and opens her mouth wide repeatedly. I compare it to a dog kicking it's hind leg when I find it's special scratching spot. :)
 
Oh, yes. Under his wings is nothing but down feathers, fluffy feathers. He does have a couple bald spots under his wings as well. The rest of him looks pretty normal, maybe a little bit ragged. He did look a LOT worse, but after I got him home and gave him a shower he looked much better.
 
I am also new to owning a goffin's. And Sassy acts the same way! Sometimes I think that she is just itchy? I was just talking to my husband about getting her into the vet to have a skin test. I'll let you know what my vet says. Sassy also has her beak open a lot, more so when she's warning you. My Sassy's behavior is very different from my U2, Amigo's, preening routine. Amigo rubs his head on his back and the base of his tail feathers when he is preening. I've read that their powder pot?, reserve?, something like that,,,is at the base of their tail. They rub their head there to distribute the powder, I suppose it helps keep them clean.
 
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My Lola is doing pretty much the same thing. I noticed when I pet her head she lifts her wing and starts preening on her body. I know she is in a molt right now and am hoping she will stop once the molting stops. She also has lots of downy feathers under her wings and they do poke out some. Is this a molting thing?
 
A couple fluffy feathers is molting, but a lot is is over preening. I recommend the Fooey or the Granny Spray. They're bird safe and cheap. Also if it's itching, I'd be cautious of mites, but try spraying aloe on your parrot first in case it is just drive.
 
Thanks, guys! He goes back to the vet in a few weeks to do a complete run of tests. I'll definitely tell her about how he seems a bit itchy. I'll also look into the spray, thank you! :)
 
Oh, all the questions! LOL

Okay, so first off: How much preening is normal? Ricco seems to preen himself quite a bit. He does seem to do it pretty hard, too. I think he's quite an overpreener... He also does pluck sometimes, but not very much. Mainly if he's in a stressful situation, like when he's introduced to a foot toy... He hates them. LOL.

He also does this weird thing where he rubs his head on his back/in his wings. What's that about?

If he's preening and I touch his head, he starts to preen really hard like he itches or something.

Why does he have his beak open a lot? Any specific reason for this or just because?

Also: I'm really beginning to think HE is a SHE... LOL. He sticks things in his feathers which I have read is a female nesting behavior...

How much preening depends on the bird. My sulfur preens quite a bit but very gently and her feathers are always perfect or pretty close. My goffin's is a rehome and she rarely preens, but when she does she preens pretty hard. I've got her to the point of being nearly pluck free at the moment, but if she settles in for some petting, she will often preen herself kind of rough while I'm petting her. Her tail feathers tend to look a little more frayed after snuggling then before. Thankfully they shake out back to normal after a few minutes or a bath.

Rubbing the head on the lower back especially while fluffed up and in the midst of an intensive preening session is normal. They pick up oils from their preen gland and spread it around to their other feathers this way.

The preening when you touch him could be various things. Cassie went through a phase about a year after I got her where if I touched her she yanked out a feather and just seemed hugely itchy. Could not figure it out and she didn't have quite that plucking pattern for her previous owner. Although she did pluck quite a bit for her previous owner. I started giving her two bowls of water, one with a little bit of sea salt(1teaspoon per gallon) and one with just plain water. Initially she drank the salty water like crazy and after a few weeks she stopped acting so itchy when I petted her. She now goes back and forth between the salty and plain water and self regulates according to her needs. If I take away the salty water, then a few weeks later the pattern repeats. Just a thought for you or anyone else with an itchy cockatoo. I also give Cassie some Noni juice because it works for my Sulfur crest during her allergy season and has taken her from plucky 3/4ths of the year to virtually pluck free. If you want more info on the Noni juice let me know. Its not the easiest stuff to get into them and if you dont' get enough into them, its not worth bothering with.

Have no idea about the beak open thing. I noticed mine does that and wondered about it too when I first got her. My sulfur keeps her beak closed most of the time.

Sticking things in the feathers is a nesting behavior for female lovebirds and a few other species. Not cockatoos. When cockatoos do it, its called anting and depending on the individual, both males and females will do it. Some like to weave pellets or wood shreds through their feathers. Often times its associated with some overpreening, but not all birds that ant, over preen. When I see Ariel(sulfur crest) doing this, I know its past time for me to mix things up for her and give her something new to think about. With Ariel it seems to be boredom with a sexual/nesty component type of behavior. Thats not the case for all birds though. Some just do it because they are cockatoos and they are goofy. I know someone who's male LSC2 ants quite a bit and he doesn't have much if any feather problems or sexual issues.

Under no circumstances would I spray bitter apple or any such thing on a bird's feathers. Even if its designed for birds. Your more likely to have the bird tasting their own feathers thinking it tastes good or trying to overpreen it off themselves if they think its icky, than leaving it alone. Not once have I ever met someone who actually thought bitter apple worked for their plucker. Better to address the underlying physical issue than the behavior.
Melissa
 
Okay just to throw it out there do you have central Heating and Air ? if so you might need to add a humidifer to your household putting back about two percent moisture might help. Heat and air pumps dry out the air way too much it also can cause nose bleeds and nasal problems in you, it can cause your furniture to crack and check.
 
I agree 100% with Melissa, it's a Too thing. They are the worlds best preeners. My SR Too does the same, I love when i ruffle him up & put him on his stand he gets busy putting every feather in it's place. The only thing i would advise is to shower your bird. There is nothing like a shower for a Too. My boy loves it under the hose.
 
Oh, all the questions! LOL

Okay, so first off: How much preening is normal? Ricco seems to preen himself quite a bit. He does seem to do it pretty hard, too. I think he's quite an overpreener... He also does pluck sometimes, but not very much. Mainly if he's in a stressful situation, like when he's introduced to a foot toy... He hates them. LOL.

He also does this weird thing where he rubs his head on his back/in his wings. What's that about?

If he's preening and I touch his head, he starts to preen really hard like he itches or something.

Why does he have his beak open a lot? Any specific reason for this or just because?

Also: I'm really beginning to think HE is a SHE... LOL. He sticks things in his feathers which I have read is a female nesting behavior...

How much preening depends on the bird. My sulfur preens quite a bit but very gently and her feathers are always perfect or pretty close. My goffin's is a rehome and she rarely preens, but when she does she preens pretty hard. I've got her to the point of being nearly pluck free at the moment, but if she settles in for some petting, she will often preen herself kind of rough while I'm petting her. Her tail feathers tend to look a little more frayed after snuggling then before. Thankfully they shake out back to normal after a few minutes or a bath.

Rubbing the head on the lower back especially while fluffed up and in the midst of an intensive preening session is normal. They pick up oils from their preen gland and spread it around to their other feathers this way.

The preening when you touch him could be various things. Cassie went through a phase about a year after I got her where if I touched her she yanked out a feather and just seemed hugely itchy. Could not figure it out and she didn't have quite that plucking pattern for her previous owner. Although she did pluck quite a bit for her previous owner. I started giving her two bowls of water, one with a little bit of sea salt(1teaspoon per gallon) and one with just plain water. Initially she drank the salty water like crazy and after a few weeks she stopped acting so itchy when I petted her. She now goes back and forth between the salty and plain water and self regulates according to her needs. If I take away the salty water, then a few weeks later the pattern repeats. Just a thought for you or anyone else with an itchy cockatoo. I also give Cassie some Noni juice because it works for my Sulfur crest during her allergy season and has taken her from plucky 3/4ths of the year to virtually pluck free. If you want more info on the Noni juice let me know. Its not the easiest stuff to get into them and if you dont' get enough into them, its not worth bothering with.

Have no idea about the beak open thing. I noticed mine does that and wondered about it too when I first got her. My sulfur keeps her beak closed most of the time.

Sticking things in the feathers is a nesting behavior for female lovebirds and a few other species. Not cockatoos. When cockatoos do it, its called anting and depending on the individual, both males and females will do it. Some like to weave pellets or wood shreds through their feathers. Often times its associated with some overpreening, but not all birds that ant, over preen. When I see Ariel(sulfur crest) doing this, I know its past time for me to mix things up for her and give her something new to think about. With Ariel it seems to be boredom with a sexual/nesty component type of behavior. Thats not the case for all birds though. Some just do it because they are cockatoos and they are goofy. I know someone who's male LSC2 ants quite a bit and he doesn't have much if any feather problems or sexual issues.

Under no circumstances would I spray bitter apple or any such thing on a bird's feathers. Even if its designed for birds. Your more likely to have the bird tasting their own feathers thinking it tastes good or trying to overpreen it off themselves if they think its icky, than leaving it alone. Not once have I ever met someone who actually thought bitter apple worked for their plucker. Better to address the underlying physical issue than the behavior.
Melissa


I agree its a risk to put the spray on them- there is always the chance they may like it or it may make it worse, but its definitively worth a try for a day or so. Now we have little to no plucking, I just wish it didnt taste so awful!
 

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