Probiotic and vitamins mixed products

Rody

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Hello. I have a general question. I give my sun conure Vetfarm vitamins I use in her water for any supplements she may be missing out on. However from my limited understanding a probiotic is used for gut health. My question is, is there a product that has both a vitamin supplement and a probiotic that is used in combination that can be used in a parrots drinking water?

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I haven’t found one. I recently started giving Yuri a probiotic and vitamins as well - they go in her water. But they are two separate products.
 
I am not a big believer in providing additives to our Adult Amazon's diet and never would I add it to his water. We take our Amazon to our Vet for a 5/4 full physical which includes a full blood screen. based on that testing, we determine with our Vet if his diet is properly balanced.

Adding a supplement to the drinking water provides little in if any increase that supplement. Common, if a supplement is need, we provide a change in his overall diet.

I am very happy to see your interest in assuring your Parrot(s) are health, but would recommend looking at their overall diet. Adjusting based on blood testing. Additives in water degrades rapidly.

FYI: 5/4 is once every 15 months for an Adult, healthy parrot!
 
I agree with above. Supplements are a controversial issue with pets, animals and humans. Many supplement vitamins and ingredients are light sensitive. So adding to drinking water is questionable. I don't use them. I'd defintely consider use with laying, brooding and feeding adults. However I do use a Harrison bird diet 'sprinkle' for crop and gut health on chop (weekly or so instead of daily). I started after Nameliss had a course of antibiotics. Vet recommended a variety of products. Daily then decrease to weekly then stop. That stuff is so expensive that I decided try for weekly until done or expired! Nameliss probably isn't the only bird who likes bathing in their drinking water. Or (🤮) soaking food in it. This also affects my decision. My CAG has consistent weight, normal labs and check ups.
 
I am not a big believer in providing additives to our Adult Amazon's diet and never would I add it to his water. We take our Amazon to our Vet for a 5/4 full physical which includes a full blood screen. based on that testing, we determine with our Vet if his diet is properly balanced.

Adding a supplement to the drinking water provides little in if any increase that supplement. Common, if a supplement is need, we provide a change in his overall diet.

I am very happy to see your interest in assuring your Parrot(s) are health, but would recommend looking at their overall diet. Adjusting based on blood testing. Additives in water degrades rapidly.

FYI: 5/4 is once every 15 months for an Adult, healthy parrot!
Yeah thanks for that. My Avian Vet has told me to give the vitamin supplements. It’s the third time I went to two separate avian vets and they did a blood test and in the mean time both have told me to do it. My sun conure and quality food, veggies, good quality pellets and fruit.
 
The supplements that may be necessary are calcium and vitamin D for all female birds that are laying eggs or may be laying eggs in the future whether you intend them to or not. For birds that are stubborn seed junkies, more complete supplements may be necessary. Of course as Sailboat says a balanced complete diet is the ideal way to get nutrients into their diets but some birds just ignore that memo. I wouldn't put any supplements in their water, however, unless the supplement is sugar free because many birds like to bathe in their water bowls. If your birds drink out of tube style water dispensers dish bathing wouldn't be a problem unless they try to bathe or splash themselves under the drinking tube somehow. I know that many top breeders of champion show budgies use supplements in their water but most use tube waterers. You really need to wash the dispensers thoroughly and frequently to prevent bacterial growth but many dispenser users don't wash them that often.

I can't see why an avian vet would recommend supplements in a healthy bird, especially a male bird, that eats quality pellets, veggies, and fruit. I thought quailty pellet manufacturers recommended against using additional supplements because it would like giving the supplements twice and it's possible to give too much.
 
The supplements that may be necessary are calcium and vitamin D for all female birds that are laying eggs or may be laying eggs in the future whether you intend them to or not. For birds that are stubborn seed junkies, more complete supplements may be necessary. Of course as Sailboat says a balanced complete diet is the ideal way to get nutrients into their diets but some birds just ignore that memo. I wouldn't put any supplements in their water, however, unless the supplement is sugar free because many birds like to bathe in their water bowls. If your birds drink out of tube style water dispensers dish bathing wouldn't be a problem unless they try to bathe or splash themselves under the drinking tube somehow. I know that many top breeders of champion show budgies use supplements in their water but most use tube waterers. You really need to wash the dispensers thoroughly and frequently to prevent bacterial growth but many dispenser users don't wash them that often.

I can't see why an avian vet would recommend supplements in a healthy bird, especially a male bird, that eats quality pellets, veggies, and fruit. I thought quailty pellet manufacturers recommended against using additional supplements because it would like giving the supplements twice and it's possible to give too much.
Hi thanks for your response. The reason my female sun conure has been taking multivitamins is due to her having a bald spot on her head without any pin feathers coming out. I’m just waiting for blood test results which I will get this coming Tuesday. She has had a skin scrape for yeast and mites which came up negative and also a poop test negative so now they are testing for viruses. So hopefully it’s something other than a virus.
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Poor baby! I hope you figure this out. Is she caged separately? If not she may be over groomed by another bird. Does she rub her head on the cage bars? If so, maybe a bar-less cage set up would work. I have plexiglas 24"cube cages and they would work to prevent bar rubbing but are expensive.
 
Poor baby! I hope you figure this out. Is she caged separately? If not she may be over groomed by another bird. Does she rub her head on the cage bars? If so, maybe a bar-less cage set up would work. I have plexiglas 24"cube cages and they would work to prevent bar rubbing but are expensive.
Oh Thankyou so much for being so thoughtful. I took her to 2 different avian vets and they did multiple tests. I was extremely worried because they did a test for beak and feather virus but all negative results. They did a skin scrape, and a deeper one also for mites all negative. So they were baffled and still can’t work out what was the cause. But possibly a very bad first moult. We only have 1 bird and I haven’t observed her rubbing her head against anything, but that’s a possibility when we’re not home. The skin on the head is not red or flakey so I don’t think it’s her rubbing it on something. But have notice 4 little feathers starting to pop up from the bald spot so hopefully that will continue and more will come. Besides that she is happy, healthy and very cheeky
 
You've done great with having her health checked out. I'm sure it wasn't cheap for all those tests but at least you know it not an illness, at least not one they can identify. Who knows? Humans get autoimmune problems that cause patches of hair to fall out. Maybe there's a similar condition in birds but there isn't any test for it. As long as she's acting happy and healthy a bald spot isn't a disaster and it sounds like it's starting to grow back. How long has he had this bald spot? Did it happen slowly or over a period of time?
I see from your prior posts that Pinya is about 10 months old. I aldo noticed that you referred to Pinya as "he" and now its "she". Has he
 
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Did you have Pinya DNA sexed and find out she's a female? A bird's sex is good information to know as they approach puberty which would start at about 12 months with a Sun Conure.

Female parrots can lay eggs even without a male present so make sure she doesn't have access to anything she can decide is a good nesting site. No enclosed spaces like hidey huts. Don't pet her on her back because that's a sexual invitation in the bird world. Limit physical affection to her head, neck, and face.

Has Pinya gone through a molt since you got her? You'd know by all the body feathers all over the place. I've found that a parrot's first feathers from babyhood aren't as dense, strong and water resistent as the adult feathers. When her big bird feathers all grow in her skin will be less visible anyway. The wing and tail feathers don't necessarily molt every time the body feathers do. Does she have pinfeathers on the top and front of her head where it isn't bald? If she's due for a molt you will probably see a lot of pin feathers forming in the bald area pretty soon.
 

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