Singapore

[Jcusano]

Hello, I maybe moving to Singapore this year, or early next year for work. I’m trying to find any information on bringing my birds with me, or if I should even consider it. I’ve done the flights many times, and with layovers it takes me a good 26-28 hours.

Any information or thoughts would be appreciated.


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[SailBoat]

I assume that you are relocating as part of your current organization, which you have worked with for several years and they have or are setting up immigration paperwork. With the current international restrictions on travel and most all organization limiting expenditures, clearly all issues have been agreed upon.

Each Country is different as to what types of Parrots they allow to be imported and you need to be clear on the requirements of Singapore first.

The vast majority of Countries and Airlines require Health Documents that commonly involving a Certified Avian Vet (CAV) signature and that process commonly takes 2 to 4 months to obtain. If you are already a client of a CAV, the process is simpler. But, the first question the CAV will ask is what are the requirements of the Country you are going too.

In addition, the airlines will have requirement as well and you will need to know that far in advance as well. There is a high likelihood that your Parrots may need to ride in the cargo space.

FYI: You should also confirm that you can take your Parrots with you when you return to North America. Some Countries limit export.

Lots of Work that require time, energy and costs.

Best of Luck!

 

[Jcusano]

Thank you. I realize there is a lot involved. I’m questioning what is best for my boys. I hate the thought of rehoming, but then the fact that they will be in a carrier for such a long period - who will take care of them? Make sure they have water, etc.


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[charmedbyekkie]

Best you hire a pet transport company - they will be the ones making sure your caiques get fed and watered. It'll be a couple thousand of dollars, but it'll be worth the peace of mind. Your birds will be travelling in cargo as Changi doesn't allow pets in cabin.

Here are two links you need:
https://www.nparks.gov.sg/avs/pets/...ranshipment-of-other-animals/ornamental-birds

https://www.sfa.gov.sg/docs/default...mport_doc803f461875296bf09fdaff00009b1e7c.pdf



Before you plan on leaving, make sure you can prove your birds originate from the US. The US typically requires 30 days of quarantine when you bring a bird in - if you prove they are American, then you can serve that quarantine in home, rather than a federal facility.

On the other hand, if your birds are healthy and clear government health inspection, they are unlikely to serve quarantine in Singapore.


Long story short, 30 hours is manageable. The big question is: can you return to the US with them? If you don't prove they are US-origin birds, then you have to ask yourself if they can tahan 30 days in a US federal quarantine facility.


On a side note, the government is tightening up on work passes, not just due to COVID but also due to tradition before elections A lot of people are losing their work passes, including EP holders, and are unable to get new passes. Good luck!

 

[noodles123]

Charmedbyekkie has done this I believe (??), so she is definitely a solid resource. Sailboat is also correct. In addition to what has been said, keep in mind that getting your birds back to your country of origin may be more difficult than taking them abroad---some countries are much stricter about re-entry than others (and I don't know details---just speaking in generalities). So make sure you have what you need to exit and enter both countries (entering and exiting Singapore and entering and exiting country of origin-- if you plan to return).

 

[Jcusano]

Best you hire a pet transport company - they will be the ones making sure your caiques get fed and watered. It'll be a couple thousand of dollars, but it'll be worth the peace of mind. Your birds will be travelling in cargo as Changi doesn't allow pets in cabin.

Here are two links you need:
https://www.nparks.gov.sg/avs/pets/...ranshipment-of-other-animals/ornamental-birds

https://www.sfa.gov.sg/docs/default...mport_doc803f461875296bf09fdaff00009b1e7c.pdf



Before you plan on leaving, make sure you can prove your birds originate from the US. The US typically requires 30 days of quarantine when you bring a bird in - if you prove they are American, then you can serve that quarantine in home, rather than a federal facility.

On the other hand, if your birds are healthy and clear government health inspection, they are unlikely to serve quarantine in Singapore.


Long story short, 30 hours is manageable. The big question is: can you return to the US with them? If you don't prove they are US-origin birds, then you have to ask yourself if they can tahan 30 days in a US federal quarantine facility.


On a side note, the government is tightening up on work passes, not just due to COVID but also due to tradition before elections A lot of people are losing their work passes, including EP holders, and are unable to get new passes. Good luck!

Thank you so much. I had no idea about a pet transport company - great information to have. I will be doing lots of research! Are people in Singapore pretty good withy having parrots as noisy neighbors. I’ve been traveling there for the last 6 years, and staying months at a time, but it has always been in a hotel.


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[charmedbyekkie]

I haven't made the move with a parrot before. Am just part of the local parrot community and researched re bringing our boy to the US before and I know of folks who have gone one way or the other (and they all recommend using a pet transport company, even though it is very ex - I think around 3-6k).

As for people in Singapore being good with noisy parrots for neighbours, it depends on where you plan on staying. I'm assuming you're coming as an expat to Singapore? In which case, I assume you'll be living in either a condo or landed - in either case, not HDB. Condos and landed properties do depend on your neighbours.

If you live in a landed house in an older estate, you'll probably get some aunties and uncles who recall capturing and keeping cockatoos during their kampung days - they'll be thrilled to meet your parrots.

If you're in a condo, you'll be surrounded by people in a similar income level, which means they also are paying a lot of money to stay there (by right, every Singaporean has access to living in a HDB, so the Singaporeans are going out of their way to live in your nice condo; and you'll likely have many expat neighbours), so they might be less tolerant. You have caiques, which means the noise isn't going to be sun conure or macaw level, so you should be fine, so long as you don't keep them on the balcony.


One of the best things we did was teach our boy how to wave, so people warm up to him quickly.

 

[Jcusano]

I haven't made the move with a parrot before. Am just part of the local parrot community and researched re bringing our boy to the US before and I know of folks who have gone one way or the other (and they all recommend using a pet transport company, even though it is very ex - I think around 3-6k).

As for people in Singapore being good with noisy parrots for neighbours, it depends on where you plan on staying. I'm assuming you're coming as an expat to Singapore? In which case, I assume you'll be living in either a condo or landed - in either case, not HDB. Condos and landed properties do depend on your neighbours.

If you live in a landed house in an older estate, you'll probably get some aunties and uncles who recall capturing and keeping cockatoos during their kampung days - they'll be thrilled to meet your parrots.

If you're in a condo, you'll be surrounded by people in a similar income level, which means they also are paying a lot of money to stay there (by right, every Singaporean has access to living in a HDB, so the Singaporeans are going out of their way to live in your nice condo; and you'll likely have many expat neighbours), so they might be less tolerant. You have caiques, which means the noise isn't going to be sun conure or macaw level, so you should be fine, so long as you don't keep them on the balcony.


One of the best things we did was teach our boy how to wave, so people warm up to him quickly.

Thank you so much for the information. My timeline is not finalized yet, but my company wants me there as soon as possible. I still have a couple things in the states that are preventing me from relocating right now, but trying to get a jump on preparation. I really appreciate the information.


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[SailBoat]

The one means of assuring you are the owner is to Microchip your Parrots. But, small Parrots are very difficult to set a microchip, if not impossible. There are a few CAV that will place one in a Caique. You will need to ask if your's will.

If you have been using an Avian Professional and have a developed medical history, it helps especially if your AP uses a photo as part of the medical file for clinic identification.

You will want to have an Avian Professional in Singapore and provide them with your US medical file. Their adding to the file will help define both the ownership and the important timeline of arrival, continued care, etc...

 

[Jcusano]

The one means of assuring you are the owner is to Microchip your Parrots. But, small Parrots are very difficult to set a microchip, if not impossible. There are a few CAV that will place one in a Caique. You will need to ask if your's will.

If you have been using an Avian Professional and have a developed medical history, it helps especially if your AP uses a photo as part of the medical file for clinic identification.

You will want to have an Avian Professional in Singapore and provide them with your US medical file. Their adding to the file will help define both the ownership and the important timeline of arrival, continued care, etc...

Very good point. I do have an CAV, and his tech boards my boys when I am traveling so they know me well and will gladly help out with the process.


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