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Hi everyone..My name is Anubhav & I am from India and Budgies are my favourite. Few times I face problem regarding few mutations. I hope all the experts here will guide me so that I can learn more about the mutation part.
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Can anyone guide me with the mutation of these three budgies??

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Re: Budgies of Anubhav

I'm not expert but my ideas are:
1. blue sf spangle
2. cinnamon blue
3. pied blue (there can be many types of pieds but I don't know them)
Somewhere I can be wrong, the 1st one I'm the most sure
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Re: Budgies of Anubhav

@Rozalka cinnamon blue?? are you sure? coz as per my knowledge, to be a cinnamon it needs to have a light brown feathers and markings instead of black. I think its an Opaline as its mother is an Albino and father is a yellowface blue opaline.

Also the 3rd one is dominant pied or recessive?
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@Rozalka cinnamon blue?? are you sure? coz as per my knowledge, to be a cinnamon it needs to have a light brown feathers and markings instead of black. I think its an Opaline as its mother is an Albino and father is a yellowface blue opaline.

Also the 3rd one is dominant pied or recessive?
No, I wasn't sure I also was thinking about the opaline mutation but I'm not sure because the "wave-break" is so small. I've just found on the Internet a good comparision of opaline and "non-opaline" backs:

They are green, but in blue it works simillar. As you see this changes the shapes of waves but not the color. It means that there have to be one more mutation something like cinnamon (yep, the waves shoud be brown) or dilute (there are 3 types of this mutation)
About the type of pied I can't help
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Link to mutation
https://puppiesareprozac.com/budgie-...ions-genetics/
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Anyone else can also share their opinion on this
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@Rozalka cinnamon blue?? are you sure? coz as per my knowledge, to be a cinnamon it needs to have a light brown feathers and markings instead of black. I think its an Opaline as its mother is an Albino and father is a yellowface blue opaline.

Also the 3rd one is dominant pied or recessive?
No, I wasn't sure I also was thinking about the opaline mutation but I'm not sure because the "wave-break" is so small. I've just found on the Internet a good comparision of opaline and "non-opaline" backs:

They are green, but in blue it works simillar. As you see this changes the shapes of waves but not the color. It means that there have to be one more mutation something like cinnamon (yep, the waves shoud be brown) or dilute (there are 3 types of this mutation)
About the type of pied I can't help
Beautiful contrast between the Opaline and the Wild type
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Quote: Originally Posted by anubhav View Post
@Rozalka cinnamon blue?? are you sure? coz as per my knowledge, to be a cinnamon it needs to have a light brown feathers and markings instead of black. I think its an Opaline as its mother is an Albino and father is a yellowface blue opaline.

Also the 3rd one is dominant pied or recessive?
I am not an expert on mutations either but

1 is spangle and 3 is recessive pied- it is easy to differentiate recessive and dominant pied- check on google.

I don't know about 2nd one.
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Re: Budgies of Anubhav

For the 2nd one first I guessed it as an Opaline coz of the 'V' factor at the neck portion and also because her mother is an Albino and father is an Opaline too and also one of my friend told me that it might be a Dilute one too....what you say??


Also regarding thie Spangle am having a small doubt. In this picture its clearly visible that its a Spangle but the picture is 4-5 months older. Now he developed very small tinge of his sky blue body color on the edges of few wing feathers that also in the upper region close to the neck. I somewhere read that if body color is visible on wing feathers for a Spangle then its a Spangle Opaline. Can anyone help me on this??
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