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Old 12-08-2013, 05:37 PM
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Securing feed hatches?

No doubt this one has come up before, but I can't find it (yet) and I want to get my new cage sorted out ASAP.

It's got the swing-out feed hatches on it, with just the hanging "clip" as "security". I need to find the pliers to tighten it up, but I'm pretty sure she'll be able to figure out how "work it" to open the hatches. Any suggestions for something better?

Also, the food bowl hangers are just put on with nuts and bolts. She may want to have a go at them - I saw the picture in the photo comp of the bird dismantling his cage and I can tighten them up. Is there anything else that can be done that would keep them removable? I suppose I could pop rivet them on and drill the rivets out if they get all manky where they join the cage?
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:16 PM
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Re: Securing feed hatches?

Pics would be very useful - maybe even just pics of that model cage from some website that sells them.
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:06 PM
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Re: Securing feed hatches?

Thanks, they are standard "swing out" solid metal doors on a screwed pivot with just a metal tag hanging over it to prevent it being opened, there's no other catch. There's a photo on the catalogue of avian products here, but it's a pdf and the photo doesn't show the feed doors up close so it's not much use. It's the first one, corner cage. AllPet products Wholesale to the pet industry

I was mistaken about the nuts and bolts. The extremely "helpful" instructions described the 6 different types of screws and the washers and nuts as "screw bag 1 pc" and did not make any reference to which screws go where. The nuts are actually for securing the top perch and the feedcup holders are just screwed in. So that's ok, it's just keeping the doors closed better. She's moved in, and hasn't yet tried to "escape" so maybe it won't be an issue (yeh, right ).
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Old 12-08-2013, 10:21 PM
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Re: Securing feed hatches?

Great, thanks. I found a better pic.
Are the hanging tabs on a threaded bolt that can be tightened so they can't pivot?
maybe put a little loctite or regular super-glue on the bolt and then tighten it down real good.


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Re: Securing feed hatches?

I need to get the socket set out and see whether it can be tightened up. It's got a locking nut on there, it can't be tightened by hand. I'm pretty sure it'll tighten up with tools, but it has to be movable to get it open, and if it's movable miss clever bird might move it.... It may not be much of a challenge for her, I don't know.
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Re: Securing feed hatches?

Sorry, for some reason I was thinking you wanted to just lock down the feeder doors and not use them. I assume the bowls would still be accessible through the main door.
I don't use the dishes that come with a cage unless their isn't a better option. I prefer to put food bowls in places that make sense according to the birds eating habits and to use food bowls that I think are the "right size"
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Re: Securing feed hatches?

Thanks, yes I don't use them in my other cages either, but this is a small cage and not her main "house" so I thought I might use them. There's not a lot of room to add lots of stuff. Actually, you can't access the bowls from inside, there's a bar across them to stop the bird pulling them out of the holder. Maybe I will end up just sealing them up, eventually. I'll give them a go first, though.
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Re: Securing feed hatches?

There was another thread on this not too long ago, I had a quick look but can't find it right now.... I'm sure someone else might remember it though. I'm almost positive that the solution was some metal discs attached somehow Sorry I can't be more specific, hopefully someone else does remember who posted it!
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Re: Securing feed hatches?

I would look into a better catch system and rivet the door on. Browse around a hardware store and see what you can come up with. some loc-tite on the nuts will help.

My Goffin can proudly reduce a cage to a pile of pieces in short order. I swear he has an impact wrench hidden in his cage! I have to tighten everything on his cage on a normal basis.
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Re: Securing feed hatches?

Thanks, there are no nuts, I'd put them on in error. It's the "better catch system" that I need to figure out. You'd think the cage manufacturers would figure it out. Some of the other cages had door "catches" that wouldn't keep anybody inside, I reckon. At least the door catch is ok.
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