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Old 10-02-2018, 01:28 PM
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Re: Very little water in eyes!

Thanks for clearing-up the explanation of what the problem actually is...And the fact that it's bilateral, or in both eyes, helps too...

Your bird's eyes look extremely irritation to me, and as already mentioned, since it's happening in both eyes, then it could be any number of things, from an infection in his sinuses, his throat, his ears, or simply in his eyes (as when one eye becomes infected with bacteria/fungi, it usually spreads quickly to the other), to a disease such as Psittacosis, to a congenital problem (although since this just recently started and he wasn't born with this issue, I doubt it's a congenital issue like a tear-duct problem)...The fact that it's an "acute" issue, meaning it just recently started indicates an infection, disease-process, or allergy...

How long has he had this problem? Was it always in both eyes, or did it start in one eye and then spread to the other? Did you change anything in his/your environment or diet right around the time that this started? Did you move? Did you start using any different types of cleaners in your home? Have you started burning any candles, incense, oils, using any room sprays, etc.? Have you changed his diet or brand/type of pellets, seeds, etc.? Any new veggies or fruits around the time this started?

It really does look to me like it's either an allergy, or there is something that is externally irritating his eyes a great deal, and it's obviously bothering him and is probably itchy, if not actually painful. Think long and hard about absolutely ANYTHING that you could have possibly changed in your home, in his diet, in his cage, or around his cage...did you change the location of his cage? Have you gotten any other pets/animals in your home? New perfume/cologne, soap, shampoo, anything at all like this that he either comes in-contact with directly, or indirectly through you or other people in your home...
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Re: Very little water in eyes!

By the way, I too agree that you need to try to find an Avian Specialist Vet, or at least a Vet who will know enough to take a culture of both of his eyes and send it out to a lab for testing, or hopefully they at least have the capability to do microscopy themselves, such as a Gram-Stain. If it's something simple like a bacterial or fungal infection, then it can easily be diagnosed and treated; however, if you don't have access to a Vet who can do proper testing, then it's going to be much more difficult to figure this out. That's why it's really important that you go over and over his environment and the environment in your home to find and eliminate possible irritants that could be causing this...

In the meantime, there's nothing wrong with trying to provide him with a little relief with some eye drops, however, I have no idea what you have access to buying over in India. If you lived in the US, I'd tell you to first try a plain, regular eye drop that contains nothing more than sterile saline, and use it 2-3 times a day in both eyes. If this helps, then all you're doing is flushing her eyes out and ridding them of an irritant. And even just lubricating both of her eyes with some sterile saline eye drops might at least give her some comfort and relief...but this is not a "cure" for the problem, that's why you need the Avian Vet...
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Re: Very little water in eyes!

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Thanks for clearing-up the explanation of what the problem actually is...And the fact that it's bilateral, or in both eyes, helps too...

Your bird's eyes look extremely irritation to me, and as already mentioned, since it's happening in both eyes, then it could be any number of things, from an infection in his sinuses, his throat, his ears, or simply in his eyes (as when one eye becomes infected with bacteria/fungi, it usually spreads quickly to the other), to a disease such as Psittacosis, to a congenital problem (although since this just recently started and he wasn't born with this issue, I doubt it's a congenital issue like a tear-duct problem)...The fact that it's an "acute" issue, meaning it just recently started indicates an infection, disease-process, or allergy...

How long has he had this problem? Was it always in both eyes, or did it start in one eye and then spread to the other? Did you change anything in his/your environment or diet right around the time that this started? Did you move? Did you start using any different types of cleaners in your home? Have you started burning any candles, incense, oils, using any room sprays, etc.? Have you changed his diet or brand/type of pellets, seeds, etc.? Any new veggies or fruits around the time this started?

It really does look to me like it's either an allergy, or there is something that is externally irritating his eyes a great deal, and it's obviously bothering him and is probably itchy, if not actually painful. Think long and hard about absolutely ANYTHING that you could have possibly changed in your home, in his diet, in his cage, or around his cage...did you change the location of his cage? Have you gotten any other pets/animals in your home? New perfume/cologne, soap, shampoo, anything at all like this that he either comes in-contact with directly, or indirectly through you or other people in your home...
I promise you that I'll be going in the depth of this issue along with some professional help ..search for a good vet will continue :-) Everyone's suggestions, opinions or ideas are highly welcomed! Answering your questions- I adopted her one month ago, from a "not so good owner", she's not even 1 year old! As she came to me- I started providing her with better and better environments! We shifted to a bigger cage, location to living room, more toys, maybe little watery stuff was there when we got her(it is unnoticeable at times), it didn't start from one eye, it was always bilateral! A lot has changed with her diet...more veggies and pellets (recently introduced)! I started noticing it a lot after she entered her molt..nothing else is a trouble for her in house- no fumes, no chemicals, cleaners ...nothing! I'll dig deep into the issue...also will share the contents of eye drops available here...and....will keep looking for professional options!

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Re: Very little water in eyes!

Chlamydia psittaci, can sometimes present this way.. the good news if it's that it can be treated by an avian vet. You already got great information and possible reasons from other members, I just want to add to that. I hope you are able to help your pretty baby over this. After reading back I see this was brought up! Young birds are most at risk, so I hope you discuss with vet. Keep us posted, we all learn from each other!
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Re: Very little water in eyes!

Definitely looks like a sinus infection/eye conjunctivitis.... She's probably scratching because it bothers her.

You can try searching here, however it appears all avian qualified vets are easily 20+ hours away from where you are at...

https://www.aav.org/search/custom.asp?id=1803


You might want to consider calling any local vets, zoos and pet stores to see if you can find a local vet that treats birds *OR* contacting an avian vet and see if they can recommend something over the counter... which has the potential to be dangerous.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:09 AM
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Re: Very little water in eyes!

Wow, all Avian Vets are 20+ hours away...that's a drive, lol...

Monica had a very good idea...the photos that you took of her and posted here are really pretty good, so the best thing you can probably do is to start calling these Avian Vets, explain the situation to them, tell them where you live, and then give them all of the details about when it started, how it started, what it looked like, etc. And once you find one willing to help you long-distance, you can email them the photos...Or, they may know a "General" Vet that is close to you that they could work with over the phone/by email...A General or Livestock/Poultry Vet can consult with one of these Avian Vets, they can do a culture just as an Avian Vet can, and they can prescribe you the correct medications that she needs for whatever shows-up as the cause.
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Re: Very little water in eyes!

Yeah! I'm doing that...I'm dialling some good peeps out there if to see if anyway a vet visit can be arranged... But the distance is a big issue! Sending some good photos is also a great idea, maybe with the help of local vets they find a way! Hoping for the best :-)

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