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Old 10-11-2020, 04:35 PM
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Will he be too cold?

So Iím moving stuff around upstairs. I can have my budgie against one wall and him not be near a window, or I can have him between my two windows and that frees up other furniture positions. He has a thick blanket on the back of his cage, will he be too cold against the wall in the winter? I live in Michigan and my house has no insulation. The house is always kept warm but I donít want to freeze him or make him sick.

The first picture is between the windows and the second is where he is currently. Also his cage isnít dirty lol, itís food heís shredded.



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Re: Will he be too cold?

I use the Sweeter Heater, a radiant gest panel for birds , smallest size and hsngiw on back of cage on one side , inside cafe place a perch near it. Puts out a lot if radiant heat. Then you don't have to worry. I use it here in Florida!

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Old 10-11-2020, 05:05 PM
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I use the Sweeter Heater, a radiant gest panel for birds , smallest size and hsngiw on back of cage on one side , inside cafe place a perch near it. Puts out a lot if radiant heat. Then you don't have to worry. I use it here in Florida!

http://go.skimresources.com/?id=1629...30d68364c5f3d7

Iíll look into it, thank you!


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Re: Will he be too cold?

you dont want part of the cage covered like that during the day...it can lead to issues with hormones and immune health because its very shadowy..top should not be covered either..that tube is also a hormone hazard.

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Re: Will he be too cold?

So outer walls will always be colder than adjoining ones ( ruined an expensive guitar by hanging it on an outer wall once), even with a blanket between the cage and the wall, your bird is not really generating any heat that the blanket will retain. I would not put my Salty against an outer wall. JUST dont put him over a hot air vent, that could fircasse' the little thing.
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you dont want part of the cage covered like that during the day...it can lead to issues with hormones and immune health because its very shadowy..top should not be covered either..that tube is also a hormone hazard.

Iím aware. I talked with my vet about the hut, and they gave me the go ahead because heís not a layer or very hormonal. He actually had one in the past when I didnít know better and was fine as well, didnít eat the fibers or anything. (Actually female) Itís very bright during the day so itís not shadowy at all until the evening.


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So outer walls will always be colder than adjoining ones ( ruined an expensive guitar by hanging it on an outer wall once), even with a blanket between the cage and the wall, your bird is not really generating any heat that the blanket will retain. I would not put my Salty against an outer wall. JUST dont put him over a hot air vent, that could fircasse' the little thing.

Thatís what I figured. It sounds like heís staying against the interior wall so that heíll be warm, thank you!


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you dont want part of the cage covered like that during the day...it can lead to issues with hormones and immune health because its very shadowy..top should not be covered either..that tube is also a hormone hazard.

I’m aware. I talked with my vet about the hut, and they gave me the go ahead because he’s not a layer or very hormonal. He actually had one in the past when I didn’t know better and was fine as well, didn’t eat the fibers or anything. (Actually female) It’s very bright during the day so it’s not shadowy at all until the evening.


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They are guessing (500%)....that can change...why tempt fate? It's all good until it isn't..14 years for my bird to almost die over her first egg, and she had none of that hormonal stuff, but definitely would have done it sooner if she has access...it's really not worth it. I do not know of any avian certified vet that would say that. I am going to come off as snarky (not my goal), but I feel very strongly about this because their nature is hard-wired and just because they aren't currently reacting, doesn't mean the aren't being impacted.

Again, what is a "layer" ??? I know there are chronic egg layers, but one egg can kill your bird if they aren't prepared..even a healthy bird with perfect nutrition etc (does it always, no--but can it? yes)..Imagine a new mother in labor who has no idea what is happening...I wouldn't go through that with Noodles again for a million dollars.

I can tell it's shadowy in the daytime just looking at it...What purpose doe sit serve?

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Old 10-16-2020, 10:55 PM
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you dont want part of the cage covered like that during the day...it can lead to issues with hormones and immune health because its very shadowy..top should not be covered either..that tube is also a hormone hazard.

Iím aware. I talked with my vet about the hut, and they gave me the go ahead because heís not a layer or very hormonal. He actually had one in the past when I didnít know better and was fine as well, didnít eat the fibers or anything. (Actually female) Itís very bright during the day so itís not shadowy at all until the evening.


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They are guessing (500%)....that can change...why tempt fate? It's all good until it isn't..14 years for my bird to almost die over her first egg, and she had none of that hormonal stuff, but definitely would have done it sooner if she has access...it's really not worth it. I do not know of any avian certified vet that would say that. I am going to come off as snarky (not my goal), but I feel very strongly about this because their nature is hard-wired and just because they aren't currently reacting, doesn't mean the aren't being impacted.

Again, what is a "layer" ??? I know there are chronic egg layers, but one egg can kill your bird if they aren't prepared..even a healthy bird with perfect nutrition etc (does it always, no--but can it? yes)..Imagine a new mother in labor who has no idea what is happening...I wouldn't go through that with Noodles again for a million dollars.

I can tell it's shadowy in the daytime just looking at it...What purpose doe sit serve?

Iím sorry Iíve been beyond busy...

Stanley has actually laid two eggs once, but my vet agrees with me that it was competitive because I had a tiel laying at the time and heís never done it again. Back when I was less experienced he had a hut as well and never went in it, just sat on the top when it was chilly. I genuinely donít feel that there is danger in it, heís just not a hormonal bird, he never has been. I get what youíre saying though, I would never give any other bird a hit. However, Iím probably going to take it out anyway because he has even less interest in it than before. Itís taking up a bunch of room where he could have toys. The vet I saw is technically the CAVís understudy and Iíve decided I donít trust her very much so I agree with your opinion after a little more thought on that.

A layer is a chronic egg layer! My tiel, as many are, was a chronic layer.

The blanket is to keep his cage insulated from the wall, our walls get cold, even the interior ones. My mom and I talked about it though and we both agree maybe he should have a lamp next to him as itís getting darker during the day here. So heís probably going to get a lamp right next to him to light stuff up.


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Re: Will he be too cold?

Michigan's Utilities have been very aggressive over the last fifteen years in providing incentives for reducing energy usage including off-setting costs of installing insulation, sealing common air leaks, and, any number of water and light usage things for little to no cost to the home owner. Call your local Utility and find out what is being offered currently.

The most important part of defining a rooms layout is what direction the windows face. In Michigan, the preference is that the windows face South!

My good friend Wrench nailed it with the want to keep your Parrot along an inside wall.
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