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Old 10-10-2018, 09:03 PM
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Re: Soon to be cockatoo owner *hopefully*

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cockatoos are NOT domesticated!
Domestication takes a LONG time.

Any bird (even if captive for 3-4-5 generations is NOT domesticated, which means they retain ALL wild traits.....ALL OF THE WILD TRAITS ARE JUST SITTING THERE...WAITING..)

Again, I am my bird's 4th home and that means that 3 people before me thought like you...and all of those people HAD LARGE PARROTS PRIOR. I know that you want to do the right thing and I know that you are confident, but statistically, you may not be able to manage this bird.

I know I have an Umbrella Cockatoo and that Citrons are not the same, but they are still cockatoos.

Consider the worst case scenario (because many people do have bad experiences): Will you forgo family, children, a husband and boyfriend + a social life to support a bird? Or hire an in-house nanny? You can't safely drop it off daily with other birds at a pet-shop due to tricky diseases (asymptomatic)-e.g., ABV/PDD...SO, lets say your bird tears a hole in its chest or mutilates your family, or literally screams louder than your alarm clock ALL night....what will you do?
THIS IS WHY so many people re-home them. They are super smart and they can hurt you. Even people with other trained, large parrots have re-homed them.

Also,the $60,000 + lifetime cost excluded pet-sitting and/or special lifestyle modifications.
If your area is remote, how will you acquire a certified avian vet? That is an absolute must...
I am not some cockatoo saint. It is very hard to keep these birds healthy and happy...for anyone! A cockatiel is a totally different ballgame...

If I seem overly enthusiastic about dissuading you it is because I do really care about this. Time and time again it goes badly for well-intentioned adopters (despite research). I just wish I could put my experiences in your brain (the good, the bad, the expensive)... I mean no disrespect, but research can only take you so far without hands-on-experience.

Re-homing rates prove that there are very few scenarios in which people are able to provide truly happy homes for these birds. Yes, people will have them as long as they need homes, but you shouldn't probably learn to "swim" by jumping into a tsunami either....Experience is very important here (real-life, authentic, outside of a pet-store experience with parrots and cockatoos).

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Old 10-10-2018, 09:43 PM
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Re: Soon to be cockatoo owner *hopefully*

Welcome to the forum!
Thank you for wanting to take in a bird who needs a home, there are far too many out there.
Have you ever been around a Too? I have a Greater Sulphur Crested who was rescued from a meth house, and after he detoxed he is a really good boy. However, he still has screaming fits in the middle of the night that shake the house. The screams can be nerve wracking. There are so many toos who need a home, and I applaud anyone who is thinking about taking one in. I would suggest spending some time with one beforehand, and talking to many people who have one.
As far as price, I don't know where you are located, but here in Alberta the rehomed toos go for between $500-$1200. Sadly, they are rehomed quite often.
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Re: Soon to be cockatoo owner *hopefully*

Welcome to the forums, great respect for researching the bird of your dreams.

Allow me to share a different POV, in praise of cockatoos. They are not a species for everyone, and success requires striking the hybrid of a close bond with a knack for socialization and independence. I currently live with 6 cockatoos; not long ago the count was 8, consisting of Goffins/Citrons/Moluccan.

While my greatest experience is with Goffins, I currently have 1 Citron while 2 have passed on. My first family parrot was a BFA, but it was a Citron that was my "gateway bird". He, in effect, chose me and we grew close. All 3 proved relatively quiet with minimal biting. I've oft stated the best living arrangement for cockatoos is with multiples. They can adapt well to a binary relationship with their humans and similar species. If they are going to be the only bird, offer lavish attention (within reason) and provide an oversized cage loaded with toys to self-entertain. Work hard to instill a routine and reward good behavior.

First step is to meet this Citron and spend quality time. If you have doubts, hold off and arrange a second meeting. Objectivity is key, please avoid an impulsive choice.

While many and perhaps a majority of cockatoo adoptions are problematic, there are success stories. I simply cannot imagine life without cockatoos!
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Re: Soon to be cockatoo owner *hopefully*

If you can find a place that rescues them, please consider volunteering long-term BEFORE taking the plunge from cockatiel to cockatoo...Although I maintain that cockatoos are completely unique, working closely with other large birds ahead of time (even if they aren't cockatoos) would at least provide you with some skills that you will need if you take this route.

A bird in a pet-store or a bird in an environment with a lot of other people birds/stimulation will not be the same bird when you bring it home (due to the change in stimulation and transition therein).I want to clarify that I love cockatoos dearly but that experience with large parrots and other cockatoos is invaluable when owning one.

I can't imagine life without my U2 but 80 years is a long time...

Of course there are positives to having her, but the experience of actually owning a cockatoo is very different from meeting one at someone's home, reading about one online or hanging out with one within a pet store. I am glad I had experience with large birds, or I think mine would have ended up turning into a terror.

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Old 10-11-2018, 10:29 AM
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Re: Soon to be cockatoo owner *hopefully*

Quote: Originally Posted by Scott View Post
Welcome to the forums, great respect for researching the bird of your dreams.

Allow me to share a different POV, in praise of cockatoos. They are not a species for everyone, and success requires striking the hybrid of a close bond with a knack for socialization and independence. I currently live with 6 cockatoos; not long ago the count was 8, consisting of Goffins/Citrons/Moluccan.

While my greatest experience is with Goffins, I currently have 1 Citron while 2 have passed on. My first family parrot was a BFA, but it was a Citron that was my "gateway bird". He, in effect, chose me and we grew close. All 3 proved relatively quiet with minimal biting. I've oft stated the best living arrangement for cockatoos is with multiples. They can adapt well to a binary relationship with their humans and similar species. If they are going to be the only bird, offer lavish attention (within reason) and provide an oversized cage loaded with toys to self-entertain. Work hard to instill a routine and reward good behavior.

First step is to meet this Citron and spend quality time. If you have doubts, hold off and arrange a second meeting. Objectivity is key, please avoid an impulsive choice.

While many and perhaps a majority of cockatoo adoptions are problematic, there are success stories. I simply cannot imagine life without cockatoos!
Thank you for this post, Scott! I completely agree, there are many wonderful success stories that deserve to be heard. Great tips as well from someone who has enjoyed making it work with multiple toos.
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Re: Soon to be cockatoo owner *hopefully*

My question to you is, why do you have your heart set on a cockatoo? I agree they are totally awesome, beautiful, smart, funny, etc... but any other parrot can be those things, too! My Nico is a green cheeked conure and he is the best, but he is also a lot of work. I can’t imagine what having a cockatoo would be like! I got a tiny nip from one and that was enough to convince me I don’t have the pain tolerance to own a cockatoo, haha (Nico can also give nasty bites if he feels like it but it’s way easier for a cockatoo to give one). I’m super happy with having just one GCC. Although some people consider him to be an “easy” or “beginner” bird, that doesn’t mean he’s any less fun and amazing.
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