Help My new cockatiels wont stop shaking/shivering their tail and sneezing

[probathrowawayacc]

Hello I’ve recently bought 2 cocktiels and from the first day they wont stop shaking. Its not a cold thing since i have another bird that is fine. I took it to the vet multiple times and he said they have inflammation ive lost my favorite lovebird to it so am genuinely terrified. It been 2-3 weeks. The medicine he gave me doesnt rly work. And as far as ik hes one of the best doctors in my city my last visit a week ago he gave me these pills again along with some animoacid+vitamin supplements and they arent any better


The birds are completely fine otherwise. But from what i know they fake being fine so its not really a good sign
Anyone knows anything i can do? Of course am taking them to another vet for the 3rd time in couple of days to see

 

[GaleriaGila]

I don't have any specific ideas for you, but if you're interested in a second opinion... will this help at all?

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In my opinion, any of the vets listed here should be better than a regular vet.
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[wrench13]

The state of avain medicine is unfortunately not uniform over the entire globe. Finding a true Avian Vet in some areas is very difficult or impossible and the training of such vets is not necessarily state of the art.

 

[probathrowawayacc]

I don't have any specific ideas for you, but if you're interested in a second opinion... will this help at all?

Certified Avian Vets

Find an ABVP Specialist - American Board of Veterinary Practitioners

Find a Specialist ABVP Diplomates have proven knowledge and expertise above and beyond what is required to practice veterinary medicine. Beyond that, they have earned the privilege to specialize in the treatment of one or more categories of animals. Diplomates are in 49 of the 50 US states...

abvp.com

If none are near you...
Avian Veterinarians

http://www.aav.org/search/custom.asp?id=1803

In my opinion, any of the vets listed here should be better than a regular vet.
International contacts, too.

Thanks tho i didnt get any of those near me i assume i can still contact them via email. Will try

 

[LoveMyFids]

Hello I’ve recently bought 2 cocktiels and from the first day they wont stop shaking. Its not a cold thing since i have another bird that is fine. I took it to the vet multiple times and he said they have inflammation ive lost my favorite lovebird to it so am genuinely terrified. It been 2-3 weeks. The medicine he gave me doesnt rly work. And as far as ik hes one of the best doctors in my city my last visit a week ago he gave me these pills again along with some animoacid+vitamin supplements and they arent any better


The birds are completely fine otherwise. But from what i know they fake being fine so its not really a good sign
Anyone knows anything i can do? Of course am taking them to another vet for the 3rd time in couple of days to seeView attachment 58385

Did the vet do a full blood panel & test for diseases along w/other things like uric acid & yeast levels? Bacterial overload? What did the vet exactly mean by "inflammation", because this can mean many things. Inflammation where? Like internal, with an organ, systemic? I'm a little confused, because there are various things that cause it. If you can clarify more, I might have advice to give, but it depends on what was found in the blood & fecal tests & throat swab. I work closely w/birds & have a great avian vet + quite a bit of experience for over 2 decades, but it's all related to specific issues. In general, there's really just a few major things that cause health problems: diseases (congenital or contagious viruses), bacteria, yeast & dietary issues which lead to imbalances that then escalate to the point where you will see physical symptoms (like high uric acid levels, fatty liver), exposure to toxins in the environment (the air, on surfaces, on hands or hair like hair products, lotions, makeup, saliva from kissing them). Obviously, stress, humidity, temperature, light exposure, lack of sleep, is also a factor which exacerbates these things as well, but there is always a main starting point for problems which usually goes back to the first ones I mentioned here.

 

[probathrowawayacc]

Did the vet do a full blood panel & test for diseases along w/other things like uric acid & yeast levels? Bacterial overload? What did the vet exactly mean by "inflammation", because this can mean many things. Inflammation where? Like internal, with an organ, systemic? I'm a little confused, because there are various things that cause it. If you can clarify more, I might have advice to give, but it depends on what was found in the blood & fecal tests & throat swab. I work closely w/birds & have a great avian vet + quite a bit of experience for over 2 decades, but it's all related to specific issues. In general, there's really just a few major things that cause health problems: diseases (congenital or contagious viruses), bacteria, yeast & dietary issues which lead to imbalances that then escalate to the point where you will see physical symptoms (like high uric acid levels, fatty liver), exposure to toxins in the environment (the air, on surfaces, on hands or hair like hair products, lotions, makeup, saliva from kissing them). Obviously, stress, humidity, temperature, light exposure, lack of sleep, is also a factor which exacerbates these things as well, but there is always a main starting point for problems which usually goes back to the first ones I mentioned here.

Thank you and No he did a physical check both times and thats about it honestly also not sure if this helps but their poop is fine and even checked it with the vet he said theres nothing wrong with it

 

[LoveMyFids]

Thank you and No he did a physical check both times and thats about it honestly also not sure if this helps but their poop is fine and even checked it with the vet he said theres nothing wrong with it

Oh, goodness. No, you would absolutely have to get a blood panel done & fecal testing & a throat swab (which normally goes out to a lab & takes a few days to come back w/results). There are a LOT of diseases & conditions that you can't tell at all by just looking at poop or a physical exam. For example, I had NO idea my Meyers had too much yeast in her colon last yr. because her weight never changed, she looked 100% healthy, ate great & her poop looked totally normal. I only had her in for a wellness ck. because she's getting older & I just wanted to make sure she didn't have high cholesterol or something (because another bird I have has this & other problems like high uric acid & possible kidney disease). I think the vet you took it to is not experienced in birds (which is super common). I would see if there's another vet in town that is an avian specialist vet, or if it's a general vet that has a person who sees birds-call & ask if they do blood & fecal testing. A physical exam w/out any bloodwork or testing will literally tell you nothing internally going on. I'm sorry you had to pay for that-it's kind of not right honestly.

 

[probathrowawayacc]

Oh, goodness. No, you would absolutely have to get a blood panel done & fecal testing & a throat swab (which normally goes out to a lab & takes a few days to come back w/results). There are a LOT of diseases & conditions that you can't tell at all by just looking at poop or a physical exam. For example, I had NO idea my Meyers had too much yeast in her colon last yr. because her weight never changed, she looked 100% healthy, ate great & her poop looked totally normal. I only had her in for a wellness ck. because she's getting older & I just wanted to make sure she didn't have high cholesterol or something (because another bird I have has this & other problems like high uric acid & possible kidney disease). I think the vet you took it to is not experienced in birds (which is super common). I would see if there's another vet in town that is an avian specialist vet, or if it's a general vet that has a person who sees birds-call & ask if they do blood & fecal testing. A physical exam w/out any bloodwork or testing will literally tell you nothing internally going on. I'm sorry you had to pay for that-it's kind of not right honestly.

Thank you I understand i will take them to another well known vet i hope hes better will ask for tests too. The female sneezes too much to my liking i probably should’ve mentioned that

 

[LoveMyFids]

Thank you I understand i will take them to another well known vet i hope hes better will ask for tests too. The female sneezes too much to my liking i probably should’ve mentioned that

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you & the little guys.