How do I get my sun conure and b&g used to each other?

[nutszy]

Hi guys, any suggestions on how I can get Tiger (8month b&g) and Sunshine (3yr sunconure) used to each other without one or the other getting jealous?
Sunshine seems ok, but still weary of Tiger. She was like the only child for three years after all.
Tiger poofs up alot when sunshine is on me and he's in the cage. Fortunately Tiger had his wings clips when we got him, but I really want them on friendly terms by the time he's wings grow back.

Tiger had other big birds around him at the petshop so I thought he'd be fine but im not so sure now, but im too scared to even have them both out with me at the same time. Im worried sunshine may get a fright and fly in attack mode to Tiger, and he in turn may react and she could get seriously hurt. She's fiesty and cheeky!

So how do I know when and how to socialise them together? Iv only had Tiger for 3 weeks now...

 

[Birdman666]

FIRST get the macaw trained! THEN worry about socialization.

It will happen naturally over time. But first you have to get the macaw in line so that he behaves, and listens to you. Then you just control the macaw and push the conure onto the floor (for his own protection!) if he is stupid enough to go into attack mode against a bird that can bite him in half with a single chomp!

Most bird's instinct for self preservation kicks in LONG BEFORE anything like that happens. But there are a few that lack basic common sense... (they go to the floor.)

Two fingers on the macaw beak, or the back of your hand calmly pushing the macaw beak away prevents any tragedies. (Backhand pushes the macaw beak away, same forehand pushes the conure to the floor.) It's kind of a hand up, push off continuous motion thing before either bird sees what's coming... AND THAT SENDS A MESSAGE TO BOTH BIRDS - MOM'S IN CHARGE, AND SHE DOESN'T PUT UP WITH ANY PETTY SQUABBLING!

I had 11 birds at one time including multiple macaws, multiple amazons, multiple conures, a too, and a CAG and they were all out on the same (granted it's XXL!!!) playstand, at the same time. My cage doors did not close, and no one ever got hurt...

 

[weco]

I have to totally agree with Birdman.....

Good luck.....

 

[thekarens]

My male sennie will take after my mac. He has no sense whatsoever, so I don't let them interact. They are both out together at the same time but only when I can supervise and in separate areas. If I'm playing with my female sennie and the mac flies over she heads for the hills. She's got more sense than her brother.

 

[Birdman666]

My male sennie will take after my mac. He has no sense whatsoever, so I don't let them interact. They are both out together at the same time but only when I can supervise and in separate areas. If I'm playing with my female sennie and the mac flies over she heads for the hills. She's got more sense than her brother.

SENNIE-TUDE overrides common sense sometimes...

I've actually seen Sennie's chase people around the room as well. Makes you wonder about the common sense of both bird and person in that situation...

[The dang bird fits in the palm of my hand and you're running away?! Hey, bird, you do realize that person is like, 1000 times your size and could squish you like a bug, right?!]

 

[nutszy]

LOL [emoji1] I did mention my conure is quite fiesty right, she chases people to. But what iv noticed is that she'll chase people who she knows are a bit intimidated/down right scared of her! Its attack mode, with open beak...I think even id run if she came at me like that [emoji39] but I don't encourage that behaviour so put her away when certain people are around. Top of that list is children. For some reason she can't bear it when we have small visitors. So she'd either go for them or for me.

 

[Birdman666]

LOL [emoji1] I did mention my conure is quite fiesty right, she chases people to. But what iv noticed is that she'll chase people who she knows are a bit intimidated/down right scared of her! Its attack mode, with open beak...I think even id run if she came at me like that [emoji39] but I don't encourage that behaviour so put her away when certain people are around. Top of that list is children. For some reason she can't bear it when we have small visitors. So she'd either go for them or for me.

That's exactly my point right there... !!!

Conures and macaws are closely related in behaviors. If you run they will chase you. If you don't show fear, they won't do it. (Or won't do it twice!)

Now, your macaw, most definitely will not run at the sight of a conure coming after him... and you conure will almost immediately realize that this was not a smart move on his part.

Once that happens, the behavior stops.

On some levels it really is that simple.

In the wild, provoking things that would eat you is something you rarely get away with. Most birds still have those instincts.

 

[Kiwibird]

I think most bird will chase down (fearful) humans. They can sense your fear and know they can dominate you! My amazon will do that too, any bird will. If you're firm with him and show no fear, he's fine. If you are timid, he WILL go after you just because he can. He also lunges (pretends he's going to bite) to test how far he can push. I can count on one hand the number of people besides my husband and myself who have been brave enough to pick him up and who we have trusted to be brave enough to let them try (he will step up to strangers, but he may also give you a good chomp if he thinks he can get away with it).

I agree with Birdman. Get Tiger trained (the bigger threat) and then work on Sunshine. We all love our birds, but when you're too soft on them, they become dominant and start training you. They need a strong leader who doesn't take their crap, and they will be well behaved birds As for actually letting them interact, start by making sure they can see each other, but for now, one out at a time for safety. They will most likely get used to each other and kind of buddy up from the safety of their cages. Parrots are flock creatures, they recognize their own kind, and so long as there isn't "territory" issues (might not want to let them explore each others cages) most learn with time to get along. They enjoy the bird company. My parents have parrots too, and have had theirs a LONG time. They had not seen a "new" bird in at least 35 years. After just a few times meeting our Kiwi (who had seen, but never interacted with other birds prior to us adopting him to our knowledge) they were able to all hang out together with no problems. They accepted the "newcomer" (Kiwi) right into their little flock without question. There was more "distress" with him NOT being with them when he came with us! Birds tend to like other birds as soon as they establish the newcomer is not a threat and not trying to take over their territory.

 

[nutszy]

Thanx guys!

 

[SoCalWendy]

My male sennie will take after my mac. He has no sense whatsoever, so I don't let them interact. They are both out together at the same time but only when I can supervise and in separate areas. If I'm playing with my female sennie and the mac flies over she heads for the hills. She's got more sense than her brother.

SENNIE-TUDE overrides common sense sometimes...

I've actually seen Sennie's chase people around the room as well. Makes you wonder about the common sense of both bird and person in that situation...

[The dang bird fits in the palm of my hand and you're running away?! Hey, bird, you do realize that person is like, 1000 times your size and could squish you like a bug, right?!]

SENNIE-TUDE! Haha that made me laugh. Neither of my birds, Sennie and parrotlet have common sense. As soon as Sennie-tude and BIRDZILLA kick in, the both of them want to kill eachother. Drives me crazy because I have to keep their wings clipped to keep them both safe from harm. kiwi my P'let has been bitten pretty severly on her beak twice now. She is such a trouble maker.