overgrown beak, obesity

[ConureLady]

thank you all for caring about birds so much

I only wanted to breed them much later down the road when things are healthier.

i have about 10 clients that want parakeets and refuse to go to petco.

also have another 20 or so wanting my tiels

 

[MeganMango]

thank you all for caring about birds so much

I only wanted to breed them much later down the road when things are healthier.

i have about 10 clients that want parakeets and refuse to go to petco.

also have another 20 or so wanting my tiels

So relieved to hear they have homes lined up!

 

[ConureLady]

I'm a certified avian specialist with an adoption center and breeding center. i'm also starting a noninvasive care business.
i'm not just giving them to any random person.

 

[lene1949]

thank you all for caring about birds so much

I only wanted to breed them much later down the road when things are healthier.

i have about 10 clients that want parakeets and refuse to go to petco.

also have another 20 or so wanting my tiels

But you put in a nest box immediately.. Why would you do that if you were going to breed them much later?

The green one is definitely a female...

You can't just put a new bird into a completely strange room, and let it fly around without it hurting herself.... She was in a panic, as you must have known being an Avian Certified Specialist...

Please get these birds to a vet...

 

[ConureLady]

actually it is worded certified avian specialist. next step is BCAS, not BACS.
They arent going to just immediately breed and I knew that. The "nest" is more like a playhut that they sleep in. my birds, my choices.
atleast I'm trying to help them. I should be getting thanked, not mocked.

I dont understand why everyone is pushing for immediate avian treatment. Yes, they will go for testing. No, they aren't bravely ill. They are in a much better environment now and will receive proper care as I see fit.

Continuously, several of you have mocked me and now, yes, I am offended.

I have three conures, two cockatiels, and two parakeets that are in a great bird friendly environment.

Thanks for the sheer rudeness.

 

[ConureLady]

 

[MeganMango]

No one here is trying to be rude, maybe its just that reading your posts has given us the impression you got these guys and were planning on breeding them immediately. One of your first posts is a clear statement that you intend to breed them. In fact, you ask whether an over-weight bird can still breed successfully, which I personally took to indicate you planned to breed them regardless of their condition. It comes off like you got them for this reason, and some of us feel that given their condition your first concern should have been their health. Of course, this probably is your first concern but it didnt appear that way in your posts. You clearly recognize they arent well, but you havent paid much attention to vet visits. You have no idea whether they are gravely ill or not because you arent a vet and there havent been any tests. Everyone here is going to consider the birds first, and even if it isnt your intention to appear eager to breed and inconsiderate of their health, that is how the posts make it look. Im sorry if you took this offensively, but you have been on this forum long enough to know that people will be honest here. The reason I asked you why you intended to breed was because I was hoping to hear that you had some experience, were planning this far into the future after vet examinations and more healthy birds, and that you had a plan for all the babies.

 

[Dharmawaits]

Ha! Looks like your conure is photo bombing!

 

[Pedro]

Regardless of whether they are male or female, i wouldn't risk breeding a bird with an overgrown beak. Clearly it has a health issue. If you do have clients waiting for babies, then i suggest you get a young healthy breeding pair. But then you would have known that being certified

 

[Thingamagigs]

In Australia you would need to be a veterinarian to be considered a specialist, so I am unfamiliar with what that means for an American. What does being a certified avian specialist qualify you to do?

Please remember, you just got your qualifications, that doesn't mean you know everything or that you know more than anyone else who has years of experience with birds. Nor does it mean people don't have the right to question what looks like an unethical situation.
And I too got the impression that you bought these birds with the intention to breed them as soon as you could. Actually red flags went up when you said clients wanted babies.
If clients want babies from you because they are afraid of a lack of quality from pet shops, then shouldn't you provide them with high quality babies produced from high quality healthy parents?

I know you are offended, but rather than be offended perhaps you should take a look at how quickly you are rushing into things Take a step back and look at what you have written and see where everyone is getting the idea you were going to breed these birds... and breed them as quickly as you can. I wouldn't breed them at all personally, I would consider them pets. But I find it unethical to breed an animal from a rescue/rehoming situation full stop, whether they are healthy or not.
I think you went on the defensive because you know its wrong to breed these budgies. Don't you want to put yourself out there as a high quality professional? Do you want to portray yourself as someone trying to make a quick buck? In your shoes, I would go get myself two quality pairs from a quality breeder and set them up in some nice flight cages with heaps of room. Quality starts from the ground up, you can't start with inferior things and expect quality to come from it.

I don't mean to further offend you, but what you need to understand is that from our point of view as people who only see what you write to us and don't know you in person... we see someone who rushed off to get a certificate in bird care and is now claiming to be a specialist professional and jumping into breeding unhealthy birds. If thats not the case, don't get mad (it looks defensive and unprofessional) simply show otherwise

 

[HalfInsane]

I'm also not meaning to be rude, but isn't it perhaps unwise to allow these two new birds, whom have had no manner of health screening, around your old birds...?

 

[ConureLady]

My keets arent extremely sick. Just neglected.
Crystal flew over to the conure cage and I let her check it out for a little bit then removed her from the area.

 

[lene1949]

My keets arent extremely sick. Just neglected.
Crystal flew over to the conure cage and I let her check it out for a little bit then removed her from the area.

I really hope they are not sick, since they don't appear to have been quarantined...

 

[ConureLady]

The cockatiel that lived with them tested free of everything and they lived in the same cage. otherwise, I would have been far more cautious.

 

[Birdlover11]

My budgie Pepsi was over weight and he physically didn't look like it, though we are not surprised as at petco he was on a only millet,seed, water diet. The vet weighed him and checked his keel bone. I was going to clip his wings after the vet said he was over weight, you could tell she didn't think it was the best since he needs the excersise to lose weight. I only wanted to clip wings because I was training him but she understanded. why won't you try and weigh him and take him to the vet see what she says about his beak?

 

[ConureLady]

My vet wont get them in until January

 

[ConureLady]

Heres some pictures from today of me obviously abusing and neglecting my little keets.