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Geeez...I'm only a few short hours away from New Hampshire!! Sighhhh..I wish I had the SPACE for just "one more" :eek: I wonder how "The Green Dino" would react to a twin??? :confused:



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I think if it is a short drive away, you should consider paying the bird a visit and may be even adopt him or her.
 
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This and like actions are more common than we wish to believe. Blue-Fronted Amazons of this sub-species are even more commonly abandoned. The reason tends to run along this line: The Parrot is purchased based on a combination of how pretty it is and it will make a wonderful accent in the living room.

What has the subspecies got to do with it?

I know that the BFA has two sub species- one that occurs in Central Brazil, Bolivia and the other in South Brazil and Argentina etc. Would love to know more.
 

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Thats horrible... why wouldn't she (the abandoner) just wait until the rescue opened and have them take him (the birb)? Am I missing something?

the answer can quite often be shame. People are so ashamed of themselves for 'failing' their pet that even when surrendering pets they feel so bad they act irrationally and do worse not realizing it.

I think the stigma over surrendering pets needs to be lifted personally. If someone feels they cannot give their pet a good life then they should feel they are doing good by them in surrendering them (all rescues should also receive some government funding to help bring more people in to volunteer)

I would very much say that anyone who feels they cannot look after a pet should at first try, but if after trying they still can't then it is better to go to a rescue who will find an appropriate home instead of throwing them on craigslist to "make some money back" I personally argue that any pets over a certain age should not be put up for sale on the internet but that kind of regulation just isn't currently possible without extremely invasive measures

Lord Triggs

That is a very nice suggestion. Every major city of the world, say all cities that have a population of 1 million or more should have a Government run bird rescue shelter and bird helpline to help birds in distress.

Also there should be more done to assess whether a prospective Bird guardian has the ability to look after a bird - say for the next 2 years, before S/he is allowed to purchase or adopt a bird.

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Avin

I don't even think specific to birds. It should be for all animals. I also think they should have vets on hand trained to deal with specialist animals such as birds
 

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This and like actions are more common than we wish to believe. Blue-Fronted Amazons of this sub-species are even more commonly abandoned. The reason tends to run along this line: The Parrot is purchased based on a combination of how pretty it is and it will make a wonderful accent in the living room.

What has the subspecies got to do with it?

I know that the BFA has two sub species- one that occurs in Central Brazil, Bolivia and the other in South Brazil and Argentina etc. Would love to know more.

The 2 subspecies, a.aestiva and a.xanthopteryx are quite different size wise, typically differ in behavior a bit and experience the onset of hormones differently. A.aestiva are smaller, with more blue, less yellow and generally a bit darker green. A.xanthopterxy are larger, with less blue, more yellow (on both the head and shoulders) and have brighter green bodies. Interbreeding is common, thus it is not unusual to see birds exhibiting characteristics of both subspecies. As you may know, small species amazons are known for typically having less severe hormonal issues and being overall more even tempered birds while "hot 3" amazons have earned their 'reputation' for bad attitudes and hormonal difficulties. A.aestiva actually are generally more on par with small species amazons behaviorally and during hormonal times with less extreme reactions while their larger cousins the a.xanthopteryx are really the ones who put BFA's firmly in the "hot 3" group, typically being a bit more 'difficult' overall in addition to the hormonal 'issues'. A.xanthopteryx are also much more common in the US, therefore there are more individuals out there than of the a.aestiva subspecies, though this is not true in other parts of the world where the a.aestive seems to be to more common subspecies.
 

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the answer can quite often be shame. People are so ashamed of themselves for 'failing' their pet that even when surrendering pets they feel so bad they act irrationally and do worse not realizing it.

I think the stigma over surrendering pets needs to be lifted personally. If someone feels they cannot give their pet a good life then they should feel they are doing good by them in surrendering them (all rescues should also receive some government funding to help bring more people in to volunteer)

I would very much say that anyone who feels they cannot look after a pet should at first try, but if after trying they still can't then it is better to go to a rescue who will find an appropriate home instead of throwing them on craigslist to "make some money back" I personally argue that any pets over a certain age should not be put up for sale on the internet but that kind of regulation just isn't currently possible without extremely invasive measures

Lord Triggs

That is a very nice suggestion. Every major city of the world, say all cities that have a population of 1 million or more should have a Government run bird rescue shelter and bird helpline to help birds in distress.

Also there should be more done to assess whether a prospective Bird guardian has the ability to look after a bird - say for the next 2 years, before S/he is allowed to purchase or adopt a bird.

cheers

Avin

I don't even think specific to birds. It should be for all animals. I also think they should have vets on hand trained to deal with specialist animals such as birds


I've been working at an Avian and Reptile rescue for going on 8 years now, and I wish that what you suggest was possible Triggs, that's for sure. While we have a Certified Avian Vet and a Certified Herp Vet that we take emergency surrenders, serious illnesses, and injuries to, the money just isn't there. I'm the "Medical Intake" person, and I'm not a veterinarian, not at all. I have a medical and animal health education and degrees, but I'm not a doctor nor a vet. But I'm free, lol. I am able to take swabs/cultures, blood, etc., and send them to the vet, I do all of the intake exams and document EVERYTHING I see that is going on with the bird or the reptile, and then I have to basically get together with the Director of the rescue and we triage who physically goes to the vet, and then with the others I call the vets, run tests myself on his or her order, and administer the medications prescribed by the vets. I can't even really suggest special diets unless it's a situation where the bird can't process iron or something similar. There are plenty of birds who are plucking that come back positive for budding yeast or something similar, and I want to put them on diets with certain fresh veggies, fruits, and supplements, but it just depends on what funds are available. Donations make up at least half of our funding, well, donations and drop-offs...and people don't even read the sign, lol, they drop-off bags of kitty litter or dog food, lol...it's really bad. And applying for grants takes forever, I don't envy the Director as that's basically all he does, tries to find money...
 

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That's just awful! I hope someone gives him a loving, caring home. No animal should have to go though such a horrible experience.

I wonder what goes though the heads of people who do things like this to animals? Clearly they have no empathy or compassion.
 
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I don't even think specific to birds. It should be for all animals. I also think they should have vets on hand trained to deal with specialist animals such as birds

No! In my not so humble opinion, it should be specific to Birds and may be just seed eating birds - i.e. Parrots and Finches . This is for 2 reasons.

1. It is easy to prevent spread of diseases and also many other hazards of multi-animal set ups.
2. It will prevent the facility from being overrun by Dogs and Cats -which is invariably the fate of generic shelters.

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Which are the "Hot 3" Amazons?

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1. Yellow naped Amazon (have seen Parrot confidential)
2. Blue fronted Amazon

The 3rd is ? Double Yellow Head or Mealy or Orange winged?
 

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Which are the "Hot 3" Amazons?

I guess
1. Yellow naped Amazon (have seen Parrot confidential)
2. Blue fronted Amazon

The 3rd is ? Double Yellow Head or Mealy or Orange winged?

Yellow napes, blue fronts and double yellow heads have earned the whole amazon family a nasty reputation. In the past, people even considered male "hot 3" amazons to no longer even be capable of remaining as pets after puberty (long since debunked, you just have to handle the hormonal times correctly). Other amazons (smaller species like orange wings, lilac crowned, green cheek etc...) are known for being much more calm birds. Mealies, while the largest of all amazons are not prone to particularly bad aggression/hormonal issues. You frequently hear them described as the "gentle giants" of the amazon family. I grew up with a female DYH and a male GCA and of course have my male BFA. The temperament differences between them was like night and day. Small amazons are typically very "sweet" birds and also more likely to be cuddly.

Personally, I believe the a.aestiva should be their own unique species, as they vary too much from a.xanthopteryx both in appearance and temperament but apparently biologists disagree...
 

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Geeez...I'm only a few short hours away from New Hampshire!! Sighhhh..I wish I had the SPACE for just "one more" :eek: I wonder how "The Green Dino" would react to a twin??? :confused:



Jim

I think if it is a short drive away, you should consider paying the bird a visit and may be even adopt him or her.

As I mentioned...I DO NOT have the space for another bird...already have two..and even though Amy gets along with other birds...it would still be a three hour ride ( depending on where in New Hampshire). I'd love to go check on this birds condition..but knowing how I am...I'd think with my heart and not my head and end up taking him/her home.


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Geeez...I'm only a few short hours away from New Hampshire!! Sighhhh..I wish I had the SPACE for just "one more" :eek: I wonder how "The Green Dino" would react to a twin??? :confused:



Jim

I think if it is a short drive away, you should consider paying the bird a visit and may be even adopt him or her.

As I mentioned...I DO NOT have the space for another bird...already have two..and even though Amy gets along with other birds...it would still be a three hour ride ( depending on where in New Hampshire). I'd love to go check on this birds condition..but knowing how I am...I'd think with my heart and not my head and end up taking him/her home.


Jim

Do you need gas money?:D
 

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I live about 50 miles from the rescue and I can't tell you how difficult it was for me to decide to not inquire about him. It's gotten lots of news so I'm sure he will eventually end up in a good home.

For me, it's not about taking on the job but more about how it would likely adversely affect my relationship with Nike.

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We live way too far away (other side of the country) but I can't stop thinking about this poor little bird. If we lived closer, we would really consider how to squeeze in one more cage. I really hope there is a follow up about him/her being adopted by a loving, responsible person who wants to give it the wonderful life it deserves.
 

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I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out it wasnt even her bird. Probably an upset ex. Just a thought. Terrible no matter what. Id be happy to take it.
 

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Great news - I just happened upon the Instagram of Mayday and his new owner/s! It seems like he found his way to a great new home, you can follow or view his Instagram here:
https://www.instagram.com/mayday_thefuzzyamazon/

I wrote to them to ask if I could share their Instagram on here and found out he's got two new bird sisters too - two pois; a red belly and a brown head!
I am very excited to follow his journey and happy he found a good home! :D
 
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Aww, that is wonderful news!!
 

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