Bonding with 12y/o OWA with no experience

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Hello parrot community,

My girlfriend moved in with me last month and, as a result, I have acquired an Orange Winged Amazon as a pet. We live in a studio apartment and my girlfriend works very long hours, so I have a lot of alone time with the bird. I've never envisioned owning a parrot so I have been trying to do research on how to get a parrot to bond with you (target training, patience, etc).

This parrot is not socialized in the sense that it does not gets along with other people (not my girlfriend), which to my recent understanding is normal because parrots have strong pair bonding. But I do want to have an affable relationship with him, so I've been patiently just doing regular things to build trust. What I've done so far is:

A) I always open the cage door when I'm home alone to give the parrot the ability to leave. As I said before, my girlfriend works a lot and has not given the bird very much attention for years. Previously, the bird lived with her parents, who had a borderline antagonistic relationship with the bird. Thus the sense that this will be a long and difficult process. I try to just keep the door open and stay in sight, doing normal activiites.

B) Occasionally I will try to talk to the parrot while he's in his cage in a relaxed, moderate voice. I read somewhere not to make eye contact because it can be perceived as threatening, so I stare off into space and talk about nonsense. it's pretty awkward but hopefully it's doing something. I'll sing occasionally too.

C) I once tried to handfeed the parrot through the cage a piece of bread. He was very trepid, but I held it there calmly for a few minute. Eventually he pecked at it but decided it wasn't for him. Not sure if it was lack of trust or he just didn't like the bread. I am considering trying again with a different food in the future.

As you can see, I've been taking it very slowly. Any other tips or pointers would be greatly appreciated. I've done a few hours of reading but it's probably hardly a dent into what I have to actually know to be successful. I've owned dogs my entire life and love training, and was extremely successful with obedience. My goal is to get to the point of target training one day.

Thanks in advance!


Edit: I'd like to add that the bird has only left the cage voluntarily once this month, and that was when my girlfriend was here. He has not left with just me.
 
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1. These are pair bond birds.

2. This bird is likely cage bound, and cage territorial.

The antagonistic relationship with your girlfriend's parents is probably either overbonding, or territorialism.

The nut of choice with my amazons is plain cashews. Never seen an amazon turn it's nose up at that one.

I have a disfavored person training post for overbonded birds. But that requires your girlfriend to participate in the exercise.
 
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I have a 29 year old OWA and I think our best bonding experiences came from my sitting quietly beside her cage reading to her and sharing some food I was eating with her. Make sure what you are eating is safe for parrots and then sit near his cage while eating it and making all kinds of yummy noises. If he shows an interest try sharing a small piece.

I also "share" something off my plate every time I am eating in front of her. I take something off my plate (could be anything safe for her to have and doesn't have to be something I am eating) and I put a bite or two in her dish for her and then we can eat "together"

Patients is the key to winning him over. It could take a few months to a few years for him to trust you. It just depends on him.
 
1. These are pair bond birds.

2. This bird is likely cage bound, and cage territorial.

The antagonistic relationship with your girlfriend's parents is probably either overbonding, or territorialism.

The nut of choice with my amazons is plain cashews. Never seen an amazon turn it's nose up at that one.

I have a disfavored person training post for overbonded birds. But that requires your girlfriend to participate in the exercise.

Thanks. Yeah I will have to try with cashews and just go slowly if the behavioral patterns are going to break. There's really nothing stimulating in the cage and he doesn't really do much -- just pretty much sits there all day. I imagine that can't be good. Even if he's pair bonded with my girlfriend they really do spend virtually no time together. I hope he can get comfortable around me enough to do his own happy thing at minimum (eg: leave the cage, explore).

As far as the parents go, I think it was a classic case of children/families wanting something they weren't ready for. I think the family grew to dislike the bird over the years. I don't mind being the person that gives him the attention but he has to obviously trust me first. I don't really care if he is my best friend or we go on adventures together, but he's probably miserable sitting there by himself doing nothing all the time.
 
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I have a 29 year old OWA and I think our best bonding experiences came from my sitting quietly beside her cage reading to her and sharing some food I was eating with her. Make sure what you are eating is safe for parrots and then sit near his cage while eating it and making all kinds of yummy noises. If he shows an interest try sharing a small piece.

I also "share" something off my plate every time I am eating in front of her. I take something off my plate (could be anything safe for her to have and doesn't have to be something I am eating) and I put a bite or two in her dish for her and then we can eat "together"

Patients is the key to winning him over. It could take a few months to a few years for him to trust you. It just depends on him.

Great idea. I'll try hamming up how good the food tastes next time I eat in front of him, lol. I tried eating an apple in front of him today and presented my hand into the cage a little with a piece of it. He started making noises that I can only presume were frightened noises. I'm hardly a parrot expert but I felt like a bite was going to happen if I got closer.

Really I don't know though, he's made that sound around my g/f in the past too. I can't really read these types of things presently.
 
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If he hasn't had any toys, or hasn't had much stimulation, and is cage bound, becoming a "perch potato" usually follows.

Older zons tend to perch potato a lot anyway. One of mine is content to hang out on her playstand and look out the window and watch the world go by.

They need toys, they need stimulation in order to foster the "playful" interactive zon... you can probably coax that out of him with time.

Have you read my post on amazon body language and what it means yet?
 
I just did actually. I was unsure what the response was like so I tried again and recorded it. He didn't make the noise so much this time -- just avoided me by turning his body language away and leaning back.

Video is poor quality but yeah, didn't recapture the same sound this time. I looked through the body language thread and didn't see any that clearly matched up.

[ame="https://youtu.be/CdJrTwBTDE0"]Handfeed Attempt - YouTube[/ame]
 
He's backing up a bit in that video, so he's probably somewhat scared. The best thing to do is let him come to you. Try not to go into "his" space. You can try also ignoring him completely and maybe play with one of the toys in his cage for a minute, take the bowls out and put them back in, and just let him observe. He'll get curious eventually and it'll make it easier and less stressful on both of them to let him come to you and offer him a treat.

Just keep sitting near his cage, eating a snack or reading out loud, paying him attention only when he comes to you. He'll relax eventually but when you're establishing trust, you don't want to force him into anything or make him uncomfortable because he will bite.

My Grey was like this, very bonded with his previous owner. If you put your hand in the cage he'd back himself into a corner, hiss, and eventually nip. I went about my usual routine, open his door and wait for him to come to me before I'd give him any treats. He's still fussy sometimes, some days he's great, others he wants nothing to do with me. The two things you need in a relationship with any bird is time, and patience.
 
Excellent. I'll have to check out that recording as soon as I get a chance.

Thanks for the help everyone.
 

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