Jardine

[DLL]

Well I have been thinking a lot about the bird that would most fit into my life, and have narrowed it down to a Poicephalus.

So, what is the minimum cage requirements for a Jardine? Different sites say different things. But most say the same as a Senegal, but aren't Jardines bigger??

I know bigger is always better and I will defiantly try to get bigger but what is the MINIMUM cage size?

Thanks,

 

[thekarens]

Definitely bigger for a Jardine. They are as big as a smaller zon. Our local shop has theirs in avl 24x24x36. That's the interior size and I wouldn't go any smaller.

 

[Mechanical8dragon]

I've always read somewhere in the 30+ length with ~20+ in width

Mine is 32x18x37 (LxWxH) but I had ordered the cage with a cockatiel in mind, never expecting to even find a Jardine's in my area (of which I fortunately did) but ya hear people say it all the time. The bigger you can go the better , If I had the space for it right now, I'd have just gotten one of the larger cages mainly meant for say, cockatoos or even macaws. But my Jard will be getting a lot of out of cage time, so hopefully the setup will be ok with her until I acquire the space for something larger.A wish-list item for down the road when I move <3

 

[RavensGryf]

Most mature (lesser subsp) Jardines are a little smaller than Pionus. Maybe 200 grams or so? 23x32 is one of the standard cage sizes (in US), and that is generally a good for a Jardines. I'm not sure how active Jardine's are in general, but one of my Pois (Ruppell's) are super active, and one (Red Bellied) is a perch potato.

Just make sure to get a cage made for parrots... Stay away from the kind they call a "flight cage" those bars are made for birds with small beaks. They're too flimsy for any Poicephalus species, let alone the bigger Pois.

 

[Mechanical8dragon]

^^ What Raven said. Make sure to watch the bar spacing AND thickness. I'm stuck with a flight cage with thin bars, so I hope that my Jard isn't cage destructive because by the time I found out about her and even remotely thought of buying her, it was too late to return the cage (from what I understand anyways about shipping from amazon, etc.) so I'm stuck with it. and I'd rather use it than scrap a $100 cage (obviously if it turns into an issue later I'll have no option but to replace it but I hope that's not the case)

So yeah. Lesson learned. I just checked the bar spacing, not the thickness xD so make sure you check that thickness or you could end up in a bad situation. (Spending $$ on a cage that you 'technically' can't [shouldn't] use)

 

[RavensGryf]

Dragon - you can always use that cage as an outdoor sun cage once you eventually replace it. Or... You can get another smaller bird lol.

 

[DLL]

Most mature (lesser subsp) Jardines are a little smaller than Pionus. Maybe 200 grams or so? 23x32 is one of the standard cage sizes (in US), and that is generally a good for a Jardines. I'm not sure how active Jardine's are in general, but one of my Pois (Ruppell's) are super active, and one (Red Bellied) is a perch potato.

Just make sure to get a cage made for parrots... Stay away from the kind they call a "flight cage" those bars are made for birds with small beaks. They're too flimsy for any Poicephalus species, let alone the bigger Pois.

You mean this one?
Bird Cages: HQ Wrought Iron Flight Cage w/ Cart Stand

 

[Mechanical8dragon]

Dragon - you can always use that cage as an outdoor sun cage once you eventually replace it. Or... You can get another smaller bird lol.

lawl yes I'd like to use it as an outdoor cage (shh no, I don't want multiple bird syndrome LOLLLL) cus there's no point throwing away (or selling it on the cheap) when it's still a very nice cage.
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and yes DLL, those cages , not the most ideal cage for a 'big beaked' parrot.

 

[Puck]

Definitely keep it! I have one for my smaller beaked Quaker and the rollies and its light weight certainly make it excellent for outdoors! And good luck with the Multiple Bird Syndrome--it lies latent within all bird owners! Good luck suppressing it!

DLL, I have no idea what brands you are looking into, but just FYI because I just got a nice hunk of money off using this coupon: right now at kingscages you can get 10% off your order using Twitter10 -- I haven't gotten my cage yet so I can't vouch for them, but several members told me they really like their King's Cages brand cages. . Just thought I'd mention it in case you were looking into that brand at all.

 

[DLL]

What do you consider large beaked birds?

 

[RavensGryf]

Most mature (lesser subsp) Jardines are a little smaller than Pionus. Maybe 200 grams or so? 23x32 is one of the standard cage sizes (in US), and that is generally a good for a Jardines. I'm not sure how active Jardine's are in general, but one of my Pois (Ruppell's) are super active, and one (Red Bellied) is a perch potato.

Just make sure to get a cage made for parrots... Stay away from the kind they call a "flight cage" those bars are made for birds with small beaks. They're too flimsy for any Poicephalus species, let alone the bigger Pois.

You mean this one?
Bird Cages: HQ Wrought Iron Flight Cage w/ Cart Stand

Yeah, that's the cage I want for my budgie .

 

[Puck]

Jardine's have pretty strong beaks from what I have read about them--I have no personal experience with them. If you look at them compared to some other birds of similar size, however, you can see that the beak takes up more of the face and looks more like a "big parrot" beak. My Quaker can (and has) gone to town on his bars and can't bend them with his smaller beak. A Jardine might be able to--or so I would assume based on other people's responses above. Like I said, I have no personal experiences with Jardine's, I just know that when I was looking for cages for my Quaker several sources said they had small enough beaks and were small enough birds to use a cage with bars the size of a flight cage's and, from having read that Jardine's beaks are large combined with the advice from more knowledgable people above, I am assuming that a cage okay for a Quaker or a cockatiel might not work for a Jardine. Plus a Quaker is a smaller bird. My little guy is 112 grams.

 

[RavensGryf]

What do you consider large beaked birds?

I personally wouldn't put a beak any bigger than a GCC in a flight cage. Many people do have them for parrots bigger than that, but those people's particular birds either don't bite/chew the bars at all, or they learn that they need to replace them sooner than expected.

They're really made for finches and such. Budgies, some other small parakeet species, parrotlets, lovebirds, cockatiels. Those cages are nice for small birds. My budgie keeps telling me he wants one (and a friend)...

As puck observed (above)... ALL Poicephalus have oversized (and strong) beaks in comparison to the body. Poicephalus means "made of head"