Making sand perches...what glues are safe?

[Vampiric_Conure]

I stream everything, too. Birds don't care what they'rewatching as long as it is colorful and moves, heehee.

As for the perches.. several ways you can do it. I've sanded them three ways: diagonally, cross-hatched, and horizontally. The cross-hatch was best for grip, but was an utter bear to clean. Second best was horizontally . Not sure how the diagonal worked for my guys. I didn't pay much attention.

Excuse the crudeness of my drawings. They were drawn with a mouse, LOL!!

 

[Compadrre]

Thank you guys for the notch pics! I will try those. If anybody wishes to post more please do! All ideas are most welcome!

Ok so back to this Elmer's glue stuff...now I am really confused is it safe or not? What about this stuff? (below) I typed in non-toxic white carpenters glue & this came up with a few others....

Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue, 4 oz. - Walmart.com

Buy Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue, 4 oz. at Walmart.com

www.walmart.com

There has to be something...I mean in the original/first post, the picture, there are a ton of those online. What do they use?

Also, just to clarify my situation/birds Tech has never tried to munch on a perch & while Yoshi likes to pick off nubs of wood (like the one below) on this one type of perch I have for him, he has never messed with the sand ones. I am not too concerned with them picking it off. They don't seem to notice the sand, but would definitely notice something that sticks out.

 

[Compadrre]

I stream everything, too. Birds don't care what they're watching as long as it is colorful and moves, heehee.

Tech gets terrified if real human faces come on the screen...its cartoons only for her. She's like OMG STRANGER DANGER IN MY ROOOOOOM!!!!! AHHHHHHHH

 

[Vampiric_Conure]

Thank you guys for the notch pics! I will try those. If anybody wishes to post more please do! All ideas are most welcome!

Ok so back to this Elmer's glue stuff...now I am really confused is it safe or not? What about this stuff? (below) I typed in non-toxic white carpenters glue & this came up with a few others....

Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue, 4 oz. - Walmart.com

Buy Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue, 4 oz. at Walmart.com

www.walmart.com

There has to be something...I mean in the original/first post, the picture, there are a ton of those online. What do they use?

Also, just to clarify my situation/birds Tech has never tried to munch on a perch & while Yoshi likes to pick off nubs of wood (like the one below) on this one type of perch I have for him, he has never messed with the sand ones. I am not too concerned with them picking it off. They don't seem to notice the sand, but would definitely notice something that sticks out.

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Children's glue might work!

 

[Jcas]

Thank you guys for the notch pics! I will try those. If anybody wishes to post more please do! All ideas are most welcome!

Ok so back to this Elmer's glue stuff...now I am really confused is it safe or not? What about this stuff? (below) I typed in non-toxic white carpenters glue & this came up with a few others....

Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue, 4 oz. - Walmart.com

Buy Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue, 4 oz. at Walmart.com

www.walmart.com

There has to be something...I mean in the original/first post, the picture, there are a ton of those online. What do they use?

Also, just to clarify my situation/birds Tech has never tried to munch on a perch & while Yoshi likes to pick off nubs of wood (like the one below) on this one type of perch I have for him, he has never messed with the sand ones. I am not too concerned with them picking it off. They don't seem to notice the sand, but would definitely notice something that sticks out.

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That’s a good question regarding what the pumice perches online use for adhesive. I have both a manzanita wood and a plastic ( acrylic?) nail trimming perch for my birds and all I can say is: whatever they use it adheres VERY well. Even after years of use, the rough spots on the sides are starting to wear down but not chip, flake, or get picked off. Now I’m curious. . .

 

[DonnaBudgie]

Airplane glue?

 

[rheashard2]

I've go through all my child safe glues for my crafting. I have a variety. The problem is with strength and durability. I haven't found a "claimed to be" waterproof child safe glue to be waterproof. Water resistant yes.

 

[Vampiric_Conure]

I've go through all my child safe glues for my crafting. I have a variety. The problem is with strength and durability. I haven't found a "claimed to be" waterproof child safe glue to be waterproof. Water resistant yes.

OOoooh, that's rough. Hrrrrrrm..... I wonder if Gorilla glue would do a decent job and be at least... mostly ... non toxic?

 

[Compadrre]

That’s a good question regarding what the pumice perches online use for adhesive. I have both a manzanita wood and a plastic ( acrylic?) nail trimming perch for my birds and all I can say is: whatever they use it adheres VERY well. Even after years of use, the rough spots on the sides are starting to wear down but not chip, flake, or get picked off. Now I’m curious. . .

So I just had a great idea! I thought I'd cruise over to Esty & find one there & ask the maker what they use, right?! ....unless my algorithm really really hates me, even more than I thought it did already....there aren't any sand perches on Esty!? Really!?

 

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Amazon.com : Exotic Nutrition Sandy Trimmer Strips (Large) (8 Strips) - Adhesive Nail Trimming Strips for Pet Exercise Wheels - Sugar Gliders, Prairie Dogs, Degus, Squirrels, Chinchillas : Pet Supplies

Amazon.com : Exotic Nutrition Sandy Trimmer Strips (Large) (8 Strips) - Adhesive Nail Trimming Strips for Pet Exercise Wheels - Sugar Gliders, Prairie Dogs, Degus, Squirrels, Chinchillas : Pet Supplies

www.amazon.com

I have been scouring everywhere trying to figure this out & I don't why bird safe glue is such a secret so this (link above) is the next best thing I could find....for anyone else wanting to do something similar to my idea.

*I don't why it's not showing up correctly but if you click the link it will actually take you to some adhesive strips I found.

 

[DonnaBudgie]

Even if you find bird safe glue, which you could probably get, I wonder how long it would take for your bird to remove the grains of grit and either swallow them or just drop them. Parrots have incredibly strong beaks (for excavating tree cavities), and can be really determined and obsessive about things. I suspect he may pick the grains off just for something to do. Or he may not like how they feel on his feet and try to remove them. A green cheek's beak isn't huge but it's big relative to his size.
I could be wrong but I don't think the sand on the sanded perches you can buy is glued on. I think it's part of a matrix- a concrete type substance that has the grit mixed in so if some gets picked off there's more underneath.
I hope your project works for you. I love DYI stuff. One of my favorite projects was taking two 24x16x32 cages, drilling new holes in the metal frame and bolting them together making a double cage. I did it twice- one side by side 48×16x32 and one front to back 24×32×32.

 

[Jcas]

Even if you find bird safe glue, which you could probably get, I wonder how long it would take for your bird to remove the grains of grit and either swallow them or just drop them. Parrots have incredibly strong beaks (for excavating tree cavities), and can be really determined and obsessive about things. I suspect he may pick the grains off just for something to do. Or he may not like how they feel on his feet and try to remove them. A green cheek's beak isn't huge but it's big relative to his size.
I could be wrong but I don't think the sand on the sanded perches you can buy is glued on. I think it's part of a matrix- a concrete type substance that has the grit mixed in so if some gets picked off there's more underneath.
I hope your project works for you. I love DYI stuff. One of my favorite projects was taking two 24x16x32 cages, drilling new holes in the metal frame and bolting them together making a double cage. I did it twice- one side by side 48×16x32 and one front to back 24×32×32.

Hmmmm. DonnaBudgie you may be right about the sandy part of the perches being more of a brushed on concrete type substance. That makes sense. But is the concrete bird safe? And exactly what do they use? The question remains … . The perches I use are called pumice perches. I wonder if the pumice ( which is a type of rock/ mineral) turns concrete- like when crushed and moistened?

 

[Compadrre]

I've seen all different kinds of those perches....I have this one in the corner of Yoshi's cage & it has stuff the dripped off the side so it's definitely some kind of glue, it says quartz sand on the listing.

Amazon.com

anyway my project is for something that would be supervised every time it's used, a table top stand. My birds show no interest in picking off the grains on the perches they have already, so I am less concerned with that & more concerned about them licking it I guess? lol Which now that I type that out...sounds a little much since most would probably be fine once they are dry...right?

Like kids glue & some grit/pumice/quartz sand would be fine once it dries right? Again, for something that will only be used under supervision...

 

[Jcas]

I've seen all different kinds of those perches....I have this one in the corner of Yoshi's cage & it has stuff the dripped off the side so it's definitely some kind of glue, it says quartz sand on the listing.

Amazon.com

anyway my project is for something that would be supervised every time it's used, a table top stand. My birds show no interest in picking off the grains on the perches they have already, so I am less concerned with that & more concerned about them licking it I guess? lol Which now that I type that out...sounds a little much since most would probably be fine once they are dry...right?

Like kids glue & some grit/pumice/quartz sand would be fine once it dries right? Again, for something that will only be used under supervision...

I would think so. I say, try it! If it works, great! if not, it’s back to the drawing board! Either way, I feel like we are all learning something

 

[rheashard2]

Birds and toddlers sometimes do weird things for reasons all thier own. Spontaneous acts are the worst and hardest to deal with. Examples abound as any one here can give more than one. Care and alertness are your best defense. If you have supplies that you are comfortable with then go for it. I honestly don't know of a durable glue safe for ingestion. In my experience pre-applied glue strips no matter the brand, style or purpose are the most unpredictable and last the least amount of time. I've stopped using them because the risk of failure overall is high. I've had the best luck with child safe liw temp hot glue applied with a smoll paint or tooth brush for best control. I am lucky and cursed with my CAG. She's not a destroyer. Items can last her for long periods. She is a dissamble specialist. Joints, screws, loose threads, sewn seams, screws, bolts, irregularities and more are her targets. Any of those items always attract her attention. Who knows, your birds may hate it. Their responses may make all this unnecessary.