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El Pollo Loco

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Hi! First post so bare with me as I navigate my way through this platform and topic. I have watched so many videos and read so many articles… and counseled with several other parrot persons but I feel responsible parrot parents can never know too much when it comes to caring for their feathered friends and so here I am! Maybe someone on here has some deeper insight that can help to give me some clarity.

I’ll try to consolidate this as much as possible. I bought the male conure (mango) from an elderly couple. They no longer wanted him and told me he was about 5 years old. They couldn’t agree on an age, the husband said Mango was a few years older than the wife did… so I assumed it was somewhere in in that range. A few months after that, I purchased the female (Papaya) at just a few weeks. I hand fed her for several weeks u til she was weaned and eating pellets. During this time I slowlyintroduced them to each other until she was ready to join Mango in the cage. They lived together for about two years. They squabbled from time to time, which is expected, but shared the nest together nothing ever too aggressive was done. When papaya reached sexual maturity, she laid her first clutch of eggs. I was hopeful, although I had never seen them mating or regurgitating food like I would often see my lovebirds do when I was younger.

However, the eggs were infertile. I thought maybe since this was their first run, that it was just a bad start. However, I never saw them mate, and so I was concerned something was wrong. I got them both DNA tested… and yes, they are both male and female. But they just never did the “deed”. I decided I’d give them another chance at it, but this year the eggs were not fertile either. They both get very protective of the nest, and she’ll sit on the eggs… but he’s not mating with her.

So I spoke to the breeder and they suggested they could be mating inside he nest box… and i hoped that was the case, although not likely….But it wasn’t. I thought maybe mango was much older than the couple I bought him from said he was.. since they both had conflicting information regarding his age. Is that a thing? Do older male parrots not want to breed? Anyway, So I separated the pair and reintroduced a new male, closer to her age, from the same breeder I got papaya from. Now it’s Limo and papaya.

As soon as I put him in the cage, he approached her and seemed to display courting behavior. She did NOT like that. I understood it was because there was a new bird in the cage and they were not acclimated to each other fully. I watched then over the next few days and eventuallly he started joining her in the nest box and they now preen each other although he seems to tell her to back off from time to time lol. So they have bonded since then… but occasionally I witness Papaya being a straight up nasty to Limo… she swears it’s her way or no way lol. They are both hand raised. And I’m really hoping they will successfully mate this year. But I’m just not sure if it’s something else. Could she just be rejecting all the males? She’s laying eggs and will sit like any good mom… but I’ve seen no actual mating behavior. Do they mate only when it’s breeding season? Like does she have to be ready to lay for him to mate? I know they Can lay all year but last year she only laid once, during Easter, and this year it was the same, a little earlier.

It makes me so sad to remove the eggs from her after she’s been on them for a few weeks with nothing to show for. 😥 if anyone has any insight on things I could do to help them along or if they have any expeience they’d like to share so that I can understand what might be going on… I’d appreciate it!
 

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Welcome to the forums! 😊

How old exactly is the male conure? Or what was the age range the previous owners gave?

And how old is the female?

Not all birds will bond sexually. Even though they live together or are bonded , they are “just friends”
My budgies, a group of 4, are not bonded sexually.
There’s 1 female and 3 males, though I actively discourage egg laying at all costs.
 
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El Pollo Loco

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Welcome to the forums! 😊

How old exactly is the male conure? Or what was the age range the previous owners gave?

And how old is the female?

Not all birds will bond sexually. Even though they live together or are bonded , they are “just friends”
My budgies, a group of 4, are not bonded sexually.
There’s 1 female and 3 males, though I actively discourage egg laying at all costs.
Thank you!

Papaya (f) is about 3 years old now. Mango (m) they claimed was around 3-5 when I purchased him, so that would have made him about 5-7 when papaya laid her first clutch. He could’ve been older, they weren’t sure when I asked the age.

The new male, Limo, is from the same breeder I got Papaya from. They said he was about the same age as her. Although I have observed new behaviors in him that I did not see from Mango, preening etc… and signs that he wants to regurgitate… I still don’t know how that will play out. Do they mate even if it’s not breeding season, just for fun, like other animals do? Am I able to observe that behavior all throughout the year or only when she is going to lay? Does anyone on here know?
 

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Hmm I’ll try Reddit lol
I don’t know if that’s such a good idea. People seem to be very vicious on Reddit.
I can’t make one member top priority of course, to deliver an answer quickly.

That being said, if your goal is to breed, which appears to be the case, you are on a sort of right track.
You have two males and a female, all should be fertile.

And yes, parrots mate even if they aren’t trying to produce eggs. My bonded male and female pair of cockatiels does often, and it has never resulted in eggs.

Anyways, that’s about all I can say.
 
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El Pollo Loco

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I don’t know if that’s such a good idea. People seem to be very vicious on Reddit.
I can’t make one member top priority of course, to deliver an answer quickly.

That being said, if your goal is to breed, which appears to be the case, you are on a sort of right track.
You have two males and a female, all should be fertile.

And yes, parrots mate even if they aren’t trying to produce eggs. My bonded male and female pair of cockatiels does often, and it has never resulted in eggs.

Anyways, that’s about all I can say.
No worries- I don’t mind the viciousness. I am familiar with Reddit and can navigate my way around it’s trolls. Im looking more at the participation and traffic level in the community. Feedback is important in the forums and it shouldn’t fall on just one person to share their limited experience and try to appease/help everyone. I appreciate your response. Take care!
 
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El Pollo Loco

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To be clear, the first male was removed. Now it’s just the female and new male.


No worries- I don’t mind the viciousness. I am familiar with Reddit and can navigate my way around it’s trolls. Im looking more at the participation and traffic level in the community. Feedback is important in the forums and it shouldn’t fall on just one person to share their limited experience and try to appease/help everyone. I appreciate your response. Take Care!
 

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Hi there! SO it seems your thread is questions about mating behavior and trying to produce viable eggs and baby parrots? If yes, I suggest letting the Mod team move the thread to the Breeding sub forum, where you might get more traction.

If the breeding of babies is not really what your main interest is, and breeding parrots is more of a hobby or passing interest, I suggest a lot more research, as rearing babies takes a lot of specialized knowledge and equipment, like brooders and such. Often in parrots kept as companion animals, the incubation and then rearing of the chicks need the intervention of humans and if not done right will result in the death of the birds. Believe me you do not want to feel what that is like.

Just let us know what your intention is and we will try to help however we can.
 

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