and by being patient with those two new ones ane talk to them often , will I get to the point where I can get them to eat from my hands and be able to hold them and eventually return to me even if they fly ? someone told me in pet store that there is no way you can tame tiel if I didn't feel him from hand at very early age
I feel that any bird can be tamed to varying degrees even if they weren’t hand raised. None of my birds except one have been hand raised yet all but 2 are tame.
Though, I’d say tameness in one persons mind is very different from someone else’s!
so for now I should only let them in cage and try to make them feel comfortable with me while they are in cage until they can at least step into my hands? the owner that I got the tiels from told me that I should let them outside from now even if they are still afraid and I try to grab them to return them to the cage later , but I didn't like his method as it will be forcefully trying to grab them later and they will be scared
I would recommend taking in the cage. It’s safer for the birds. Letting them out and catching them to return them back to the cage will greatly set back any progress you could’ve been making.
I will try that and see what happens , the problem is there is no pellets here in my country too so the diet should be with fruits I guess ...are millet spray usually sold in pet stores or I can find them in places where there is vegetable and all ? I just didn't find those but I will try to look more
If you can feed them lots of vegetables that’s great too. Fruit should a a treat, maybe 2-4 times a week.
Millet is usually sold in pet stores. You could also try oat sprays or you could order some millet? I know not everyone has access to certain products/foods.
have a lot of respect for other peoples opinions on PF but whether to clip a bird's wings is not a black or white, right or wrong, or can't fly to escape or completely free flying issue. There are degrees of wing trimming that range from a severe clip that cruelly grounds the bird to a slight shortening of the primary flight feathers that prevents the bird from getting enough lift to fly to a high unreachable perch or getting enough speed to slam into walls and windows. I prefer to keep all my budgies slightly trimmed for their safety and mine, too. They can easily fly across a 15 foot room and from the floor to their cage. I've kept birds (budgies and cockatiels) for well over 40 years and believe its easier to work with a new bird with a slight wing trim. It has never made a new bird more frightened of me. Once the bird knows its way around the room, is no longer frightened of me, is finger tame, and can be trusted to go back to its cage without me having to climb tall ladders I usually let the feathers grow back. With two new, frightened birds, they have less reason to get comfortable with you and it will take longer to tame them. I this case I think a slight trim is even more necessary than with a solo bird.
While I understand your concern, i think clipping a new bird just speeds up the process that would’ve happened anyways.
Many of our members have tamed unclipped birds with the same success as a clipped bird. It takes an extra degree of caution, perhaps, but I think that’s for the better.
Wings clipping is a hot topic. In my mind, clipping for ease of taming is not necessary. It did not aid in the taming of any of my birds.
If the OP decides to clip, then I won’t hold that against them as it is common practice.
I would also not recommend clipping such young birds. This is such an important time in their lives where they build confidence.
I can see in my own birds that were clipped as babies how diminished their confidence was, especially while young.
I think clipping can be avoided if the birds are tamed in the cage, especially since they were worked with at least for a time, while young.
