Young sun conure- seems to hate me.

[NandayMom]

So I know I just got Rauri this past Saturday, but he hates me..... He is still being hand fed so in the morning and evening he is excited to see me but when I go to get him out of his cage, he tries to get away from me

I have been feeding him, then putting him back in his cage to relax after eating. After about an hour or two, I go to get him out and he tries to get away from me.

When I do get him to step up he chirps like a cricket and tries to get back to his cage. If I take him to a different room he just keeps chirping and won't calm down. He chirps the whole time and tries to slap me with his wings. He doesn't seem to like scritches and he doesn't want to ever step up.

What can I do to help him like me? My last hand fed baby couldn't get enough of me and begged to be with me all the time!

Suggestions?

 

[NandayMom]

Anyone? Would love some advice

 

[Puck]

Just give it some time. Not all of them love you instantly, but if you're his only source for interaction then he will likely warm up to you eventually! Good bonds sometimes take time. I wouldn't worry too much--he doesn't "hate" you. He's just in a whole new place with a whole new person and doesn't know you yet. Patience is definitely the key with new birds.

 

[SilverSage]

Sounds to me like he is afraid, not hating. He is a wild animal, he is going through something very traumatic. You must gain his trust. Don't chase him or catch him or "get him" to do anything, coax him and bribe him and be sure not to break his trust.

 

[lebachu]

1: You manage food for parrots is not good. Please adjust the amount of food that the parrot cooperate with you.
2: Can the parrot does not like your actions and you deliberately coercive. instead you just take it as a training post. touch it ---> clicker and reward ---> stroked it ---> clicker and reward. Results parrot will not avoid your actions

 

[lebachu]

absolutely no enforcement actions they dislike

 

[NandayMom]

,I will not withhold food from a baby if that is what you are saying. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

 

[lebachu]

maybe with you it is a bad thing. but it is the approach that all famous coaches are taking. train. That is science diet. do not affect the development of the parrot. even my parrots are often healthier than other people's culture.
* Here is my video channel on youtube for you to refer to what I do. I do not recommend that a bad thing to you: https://www.youtube.com/user/lebachu/videos

 

[NandayMom]

Thanks but no thanks. Not my style, won't do it. Will find a better way.

 

[Puck]

You don't have to withhold food from him, just be very patient! You can take foods he doesn't get during his normal mealtimes that he likes (say millet or some seeds) and hold them near him but not so near that you enter his personal space. Eventually, once he gets used to you being near, his urge to eat the yummy will overcome his fear and he will come to you. At first he may just snatch it away, but as he learns that you don't pose any threat he will adjust. Like I said before, it's all about time and patience. Some birds are instantly friendly, others are a bit more shy. Just don't press the relationship by invading his space. Instead offer passive friendship, getting close enough that he notices you while still being far enough away that he's not frightened. Slowly but surely he will let you get closer and closer. When he readily takes yummies from your hand, you can start working on "step up." If he shies away, go back to passively offering a yummy. Eventually he will get used to you, and you'll be best buds before you know it! Following him around the cage or making him sit on your hand when he doesn't want to just registers as a traumatic experience in his mind--after all, he is only a bird and doesn't know what your intentions are yet. Back up a step and let him decide when it's time to get scritches or come to you. You have to build a trust foundation before you can start any more in depth training.

 

[SilverSage]

The method of managing food intake to train animals is one with many varieties, some of which are quite controversial.

However, we are talking about an UNWEANED baby, not an adult. This type of training is not appropriate for an unweaned baby whether or not you believe in it for adults. Simply rewarding calm and trusting behavior, being calm and patient, not forcing or frightening, should do the trick. Any update?

 

[Anansi]

The method of managing food intake to train animals is one with many varieties, some of which are quite controversial.

However, we are talking about an UNWEANED baby, not an adult. This type of training is not appropriate for an unweaned baby whether or not you believe in it for adults. Simply rewarding calm and trusting behavior, being calm and patient, not forcing or frightening, should do the trick. Any update?

EXactly! I couldn't agree more, Dani!

Food management is VERY controversial, but one thing for sure is that it has no place with an unweaned baby. At that stage, the priority is nourishment. Any deficiencies in nutrition at so pivotal a point could have serious and lasting consequences for the baby.

For now, as Michelle (Puck) pointed out, you want to take more of a passive approach. You're building trust, here, and that can't be rushed. Just work at your baby's pace.

 

[NandayMom]

He's doing much better. Still sassy but begs to come out