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Flynhigh 02-08-2019 06:24 PM

Re: Socializing & Training
 
100% what Laurasea said. I think your doing a great job and you are what Jojo needs.

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Flynhigh 02-09-2019 12:06 AM

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Birdmom, All the questions you asked are absolutely normal and in my opinion says loads about you. This world is only as good as today and nothing is promised for tomorrow. This last post has told me more about you than people I have known for years. I think you know in your heart what you want to do but maybe the pressure of the upcoming decision has you questioning the proposition?.


I think we all question things with our companions and if what were doing is adequate or not especially with the fact that birds can be complex. We also have to understand that these birds are more likely to be adopted out to less compatible family's than not. I have to say you have had much success at a very early period in this relationship and as much as a bite may be haunting you , If he was really trying to scare you off, you would be full of holes and probably would have already considered foster only and getting him off to hopefully his forever home. You absolutely have what it takes if a parrot is something you want in your life. As previously stated most of us work for a living and our birds do spend part of their lives without us. Just as our own children spend a significant amount of time away as the grow. We miss many things and there will always be doubts and regrets , don't overthink this animals live in the moment not like us second guessing everything we do.


This is something to keep in mind , their only better off in one way " back in the wild" and unfortunately for the ones bred to be companions there is no going back. We can give them many things but freedom would mean a very short life. Personally I think if you stay the course you will end up with a life long companion that will continually impress and give you a better understanding of life itself. Also stories , laughs , and many cherished family moments. No matter what, you have done something most would not have. Yet made a difference in JoJo's world. No matter the decision, you have what it takes at the very least to make sure he gets an opportunity at his forever home with the short time he has been a part of your family.

Birdmom12 02-09-2019 08:25 AM

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Thanks everyone for your unwavering support and much needed advice. Its helped me understand a lot of things. My family is supportive of the decision...but they ultimately think if I can't get him to step up (and soon) its not meant to be. I've tried explaining my comfort is all with small birds. His comfort is all into one human that sadly died. Together we are more alike then we know...we both want to go slow and when its right...he will naturally come to me and I will naturally know he means to be friends. At least I feel that's how its meant to progress. I feel like I'm meant to feed him, get him out, clean his area, talk to him, reward him and eventually he will come to me.

I don't think people realize he might come to me in August though. I'm ok with this...I feel like to achieve I need to be allowed to observe and learn trust just like he needs to do it with me.

I think I'm confident in my decision now. I'm sure tomorrow I will be back needing more advice on what to do with the next hurdle!!

Flynhigh 02-09-2019 09:47 AM

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Target and reward every day , continue to take it slow ( JoJo's pace) his trust will come. Goals are great but they ultimately make the decision of when their ready. Stepping up will be a absolute celebration for you when it happens . Please contain yourself when it does so he doesn't get scared and get the wrong message. Targeting is a great way to introduce stepping up but dont do this until you both feel comfortable. Always remember to stay at his pace watch body language and probably 9 out 10 times if for some reason he gets startled or upset because he is flighted he will choose flight over bite.

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Birdmom12 02-09-2019 11:51 AM

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A small miracle happened after my earlier post. I hugged my husband and George flew at us. Assuming that he wanted my husband which he has before he put his arm up to try and perch him. He passed the arm flew around us and onto his back. I figured he was jealous so I stepped Aay and he took George back to his play top. After that George seems excited possibly agitated so I left the room and went up stairs. When I came down I said hi George and went to walk into the living room. It was then George instantly took off and flew to my shoulder and gurgled away. It completely shocked me! He has never once showed interest in being on me! I took him back to his play stand offered him a treat which he declined so I praised him with talks. I’m wondering now if he originally flew to be near me and it wasn’t jealousy? Time will tell.

Flynhigh 02-09-2019 01:44 PM

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It likely was, but he was unsure and did what he thought was safest. Reaction side of the brain vs the thinking side. When you came down later he was using the thinking side . Continue high praise and treats or use the shoulder as the reward . As long as he doesn't give you a hard time about getting off . If so no shoulder period. He is communicating his desire to be with you so you will need to let down your guard a bit and work with with him to develop that bond if your relaxed he will be , let him ride along for short trips to other parts of the house . Tell him where your going and what your doing , live in that moment .

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Birdmom12 02-09-2019 02:20 PM

Re: Socializing & Training
 
good advice, thanks.

Is there any tall tell signs Amazons will give you when on your shoulder that they are getting irritated? Its not like I can see him but like you said he's more likely to fly off of me than to attack.

I'd say we had a fairly successful morning. He clearly got some energy out because he's back in his cage sleeping away.

Flynhigh 02-09-2019 02:33 PM

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Not really , but one thing to consider is jewelry, most all birds will definitely show interest , so earrings would be a no no when your available for him to be with. Dont want him thinking your ears are toys. Keep the interactions to a few minutes and always vary the time. Especially when behavior is what you want, give him extra time. If he gets possessive or nippy off he goes. Eventually if he is a good boy you can have him along for as long as he wants as he will at some point get bored and want to head back to his cage or stand.

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Flynhigh 02-09-2019 02:42 PM

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Oh and this is from personal experience , dont put your cell phone to your ear , most get very jealous and may bite. Neither of my guys tolerate me cheating on them with the phone. Lol!!

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wrench13 02-09-2019 03:57 PM

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Salty gives my ear a nibble when he is ready to back to his playstand/


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