Should I give Anti parasite spot on for my new Green Cheek

VJB

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We finally brought Obi home on Thursday. He has come from a pet shop and was in contact and around other birds. I am wondering whether I should give him a pipette of anti parasite spot on. I don't think he has any parasites or worms etc but should I do this as a precaution especially as we have another bird at home?
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NEVER give any kind of medication or supplements to a parrot unless directed to do so by an vet, preferably an avian specialist. Also, I'm unsure what part of the world you're in, but in countries like the US, UK, AU, most of Europe etc... it is very uncommon for parrots to have parasitic infections or worms when purchased because they were born in captivity and have never been in contact with other birds who weren't also born in captivity. The concerns for new birds are viral or bacterial infections, some of which can be passed from parent to chick. I a guessing you did not put this new bird in a separate room from the one you already had right? If you didn't quarantine already, IF the bird is sick, your other bird has already been exposed.

I would strongly suggest you take him to see an avian vet for a new bird checkup, which will both establish him as a patient at the vets office and get you a baseline of health. If there is anything 'wrong' with him, the vet will find it and if treatments need to be given, the vet can also give the appropriate medication/dosage.
 

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Welcome to Obi! Just want to reiterate the excellent advice above. So many potentially harmful substances are marketed for over-the-counter use. Please consult with an avian vet!
 

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NOOOO!

Don't ever, ever, ever give your bird any type of "anti-parasitic" medicine except something that is given to him by an Avian Vet!!!! And never, ever, ever use any of those anti-parasitic products that are sold in pet shops around your bird, such as those things you are supposed to hang on their cages for mites and such! First of all, they don't work. And your bird does not ever need to be wormed or anything of the such on a "precautionary" basis. Never.

Second of all, birds are extremely sensitive to everything, and most-all anti-parasitic substances consist of literal poisons/toxins, most of which can very quickly kill your bird.

Just because your bird came from a pet shop does not at all mean he has any type of "parasites", such as mites. Only if you seen him exhibiting signs/symptoms of chronic itching/scratching should anything be done like this (birds do not need to ever be dewormed by the way), and at this point you only take them to a Certified Avian Vet. Never ever self-medicate your bird!

***I don't know if you've ever owned a pet bird/parrot before or not, but it doesn't sound like it, so something that you really need to understand and listen to for the next 30-40 years that you hopefully have your Green Cheek: BIRDS ARE NOT AT ALL LIKE DOGS, CATS, RODENTS, ETC. They are extremely sensitive to medications, supplements, fumes, scents, oils, etc. They can go from being perfectly healthy to dead in an instant, particularly from being given any type of medication, anti-parasitic substance, etc. And I'm not trying to "shout" at you by typing this, but simply to emphasize this: YOU SHOULD NEVER, EVER TREAT YOUR BIRD WITH ANY TYPE OF OVER THE COUNTER MEDICATION OR SUBSTANCE YOU BUY AT A PET SHOP FOR PARASITES, WORMS, ETC. NOR SHOULD YOUR BIRD EVER BE TREATED ON A "PRECAUTIONARY" OR ON A "JUST IN CASE" BASIS!

Now every bird that you bring into your home, whether a young baby you buy from a breeder or pet shop, or an adult that you adopt from a rescue or private individual, should be scheduled for a "Wellness Exam" with either a Certified Avian Vet or an Avian Specialist within the first couple of weeks of bringing him home. During this visit the Avian Vet with do a complete physical exam, which includes looking at his feathers, skin, cere, etc. for different types of mites and other parasites. This is not like bringing a puppy or a kitten home and running out to the pet store and buying a flea and tick medication to put on them to PREVENT fleas, ticks, etc. You don't do that with birds. You only treat them for an illness, infection, parasite, injury, etc. when it occurs, and you never can treat them on your own, at home, with medications that you buy over the counter at a pet shop or online. You must take them to only an Avian Specialist Vet (no general or Exotic Vets), as you can easily kill them by trying to treat them with medications on your own. And certainly not with anti-parasitics. They do not contract fleas, ticks, etc. like dogs and cats do. And like I said, if your bird has something like feather-mites or scaly-face mites, he'll be itching and scratching himself constantly, and this needs to be seen immediately by an Avian Specialist and treated with a medication that is specifically formulated for birds!

I'm very glad that you asked this question here, hopefully before you gave your bird anything or put anything on him, because this is a totally different situation than any other type of pet that you may have owned.
 
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VJB

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Hello
Thank you all so much for the advice. I have only ever owned budgies before getting Obi. I have put Obi who is in his cage next to Scooby my budgie in her cage so they can see each-other but I am keeping 30 days of quarantine before introducing them out of their cages. I hope this is the right way to do it.
Obi seems healthy i asked about the spot on because I rescued Scooby my budgie from a filthy cage infested with little white worms and larvae and I guess I am paranoid now about worms and infections and parasites. She had a bubbly nose and a scaly face and scratched a lot so not knowing better I gave her an antiparasite spot on and it actually did the trick the nasal bubbling stopped as did the itching and she began to do well. I did not want to go to a vet with her because the last vet I went to with a budgie gave it an infection that killed it.

I am very aware of fumes and cooking saucepans and all the potential hazards to birds but am very glad that this has been raised in case any new bird owners are not.

We moved a short while ago and I have managed to locate an avian vet the last vet did not have a clue about birds. So I will arrange a check up for Obi this coming week.

I really want to say thank you all so much for the super advice and reassurances.

Fingers crossed for the vet check.
 

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Yes, please move the new bird into a totally separate room than your Budgie for 30 days...It isn't full-proof at this point, obviously, but better than not doing anything. They can spread illnesses through the air just as people can.

And as far as the vet goes, you need to find either a Certified Avian Vet or an Avian Specialist Vet, not only for his first "wellness-exam", but for future illness and injury! Not all vets are created equal, and with birds it's absolutely necessary to take them to an experienced Avian Specialist Vet (not an Exotic's Vet or a General Vet) the minute you notice something is wrong with them. For example, you mentioned your Budgie once has "bubbles" coming out of his nose. I assure you that the anti-parasite "spot" you put on him had nothing to do with him getting better. You're lucky that it didn't kill him, and whatever microbe was causing the sinus or upper-respiratory infection in your Budgie was most-likely cleared-up on it's own, or it was simply due to an environmental allergy.

Birds all possess an innate instinct to hide all outward signs of illness, pain, and injury for as long as they possibly can, it's a survival instinct that keeps them and their flocks alive in the wild. So as a result, by the time you notice that your bird is sleeping a lot, not moving much, coughing, vomiting, fluffing-up all the time, on the bottom of the cage, etc., they've usually been sick for weeks if not months already, and a lot of the time it's too late to save them. That's why it's so important to take them to a CAV or Avian Specialist at least once a year for a complete wellness-exam that includes fecal cultures and baseline blood work that can be compared year after year.

You've got a Budgie who should live to be between 15-20 years-old, and a Conure that should live to be between 30-40 years old. They need proper medical care just like a human child does. And also, make sure that you eliminate ALL scented items from your home as well as the pots and pans that contain Teflon. This means all candles, "plug-ins", incense, and all cleaning products...You must start using either natural, plant-based cleaners (usually clear and unscented), or better yet, just go with white vinegar and hot water...no bathroom cleaners, no kitchen cleaners, no carpet powders, no scented or non-natural all-purpose cleaners, etc.
 
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The cages are in separate rooms I will not move them near each other now I know. I Use F10 SC for cleaning the cages is Ecover ok for the floors and surfaces?
 

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